62Likes
 |

3 Nov 2020
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 39
|
|
Doing stuff without fanfare.
We were having a shouty and cynical chat last night about people who have the TV rights sorted, newspaper coverage, the whole kit and caboodle, of their latest adventure.
Then we got down to talking about people who'd 'done stuff' just to satisfy themselves.
Things like...
I remember being in Addis Ababa and meeting a cyclist heading for London. He'd started off in Cape Town. I left him my phone number. Much later home in London I got a message left on the phone just saying he made it and ' thanks for the coffee'.  That was it...never heard from him again.
Follow my drift?
|

4 Nov 2020
|
Contributing Member
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: South East Queensland, Australia
Posts: 30
|
|
I often ride solo and do so because I like to go to places that interest me. I have completed many long trips in Australia (some have been with other riders) and had a couple of trips to New Zealand (one to North Island and one to South island - I shipped my bike to South Island). I have met interesting locals, interesting local riders and riders who are from other places in the world. An enjoyable chat is often had over a simple meal.
It is a rewarding experience to exchange email addresses and have someone contact you later and simply ask "how was the remainder of your trip"?
I have presented at a few HU meetings - not to show photos - but to simply pass on "experiential learnings" that may entice others to "go for a long ride".
I must say that I have found the HU site and members to be a very helpful and a valuable source of information.
|

4 Nov 2020
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Yorkshire UK
Posts: 1,785
|
|
I'll sit on the fence here. I can't watch the "What I did on my extreme adventure extreme adventury holiday" YouTube series, but I can appreciate a nice photo on Instagram or something.
Andy
|

4 Nov 2020
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Belper, uk, EUROPE
Posts: 573
|
|
For me, I like to be able to read what other people have done - it helps to remove the mystique and barriers to the prospect of my planned journey. I think I understand what Mike means about some people - the journey seems to be the means to an end rather than its own objective.
__________________
You will have to do without pocket handkerchiefs, and a great many other things, before we reach our journey's end, Bilbo Baggins. You were born to the rolling hills and little rivers of the Shire, but home is now behind you. The world is ahead.
|

4 Nov 2020
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Devon, UK
Posts: 870
|
|
I always think it's nice to share what you've done, especially these days when it's so easy to share. Back in the 80s you wouldn't have found many people interested in coming round for a slide show, even if your trip was more groundbreaking than a quick weekender to the Nordkapp these days. If nothing else it's nice to have a way of looking back on your memories and thoughts from the trip.
But that said, there are a lot more travelogues and YT channels out there than are actually worth watching. Only so many different pics of someone grinning in front of a statue or an alpine pass, or a lingering drone shot of a bike going down a dusty road over a stock guitar soundtrack...
So yeah, blog it by all means, but leave out the pretensions to being the next Ewan and Charley or Ted Simon, don't regale us with tales of "me, being greeted by all the local bikers because I'm such a celebrity" or "my sponsor's gear worked brilliantly" because you're the only one interested in that stuff. Unless you're going somewhere really special, your televisual skills are not the attraction.
|

5 Nov 2020
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Oxford UK
Posts: 2,120
|
|
Making a fuss about nothing does seem to be a viable career path these days - ask any newspaper columist or YouTube 'influencer'. Years ago everybody wanted to be a rock star but as there's no money in it since Spotify there's a lot of people looking for alternatives. 'Adventure Travel' does have some of the same 'sex and drugs and rock and roll' glamour to it (to an outsider anyway) and as getting people to pay to live a kind of second hand danger free travel life has become much more achievable there's a lot of people jumping on the bandwagon. It's all just a branch of showbiz these days - even down at grass roots level (HUBB meetings for example) Anyone who's sat through a talk by Simon Gandolfi (or even Austin Vince) will know what I mean.
Meanwhile, down at the other end of the spectrum, there must be plenty of people who are out there traveling for their own personal reasons but you ever get to hear about them. I've met lots of people like that when I've been on the road, people who do it because they enjoy it (or whatever) and that's enough for them.
|

5 Nov 2020
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Belper, uk, EUROPE
Posts: 573
|
|
I suspect that as and when I do my trip I will log it on the HUBB and "The Dive Forum" as it will be a great deal easier to do that than to use either a personal website or Facebook and it will mean that my family will be able to see where I am and what I am upt o more easily - Facebook is virtually unsearchable as far as I am concerned. I want people to be able to see what I have done - if only to demystify and possibly even inspire others - but by the same token I do not want to be all "shouty" about it.
I realise that I am contradicting myself within the same paragraph but I have never claimed to be consistent.
__________________
You will have to do without pocket handkerchiefs, and a great many other things, before we reach our journey's end, Bilbo Baggins. You were born to the rolling hills and little rivers of the Shire, but home is now behind you. The world is ahead.
|

5 Nov 2020
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 489
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikebarton
We were having a shouty and cynical chat last night about people who have the TV rights sorted, newspaper coverage, the whole kit and caboodle, of their latest adventure.
|
are you referring maybe to Long Way Up (Round and Down) series ?
Personally I never travel without whole Television crew and cheerleaders LOL
|

5 Nov 2020
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Portugal permanent, Sweden during summer
Posts: 487
|
|
Youtube and TV
I think that there is one large factor,
besides beeing wanted to be "popular".
Economy/Buisness.
Popular Youtube channels generate money.
When Corana hit i saw this:
Person #1's largest problem was how to generate income. When there was no travel to make videos from. Not that the travel itself stopped
Person#2 was releasing a video more or less daily. Sitting at a table drinking  and talking about Corona situation. And hoped for som clicks and some money.
And so on.....
People having popular Youtube chanels also get sponsor support.
It is a way of solwing the finacial for travelling.
(But as I stated earlier. Also a willing to be known and get many likes,
Many likes make some people happy.
|

5 Nov 2020
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Portugal permanent, Sweden during summer
Posts: 487
|
|
Other type of traveller.
There are traveller that do not talk about themself and what they "achieved"
But descibes the world that they could see.
I have one example of a person who used a bicycle from Chile to Alaska. Long time ago. And the wrote a book of what he saw and learned. He wanted to describe that part of the world for us. And the real world for the people living there. Not tourist attraction.
That is what I like.
And to see a country/culture you have to approach them on their level.
You can't come in a huge 4X4 and look out the window.
But alone on a bike/motorcycle. Tired, frozena and hungry. They will treat you in a completely different way. And you will learn the culture in a different way.
Without any political discussions. My view is that Ernesto's and Alberto's travel is a good example of that type of travel and travel story. They wanted to learn how South America was. And they described what they saw in their books. And what they saw and learned, affected them hard.
I will never write any book, or make any youtube video. I want to experience and learn. For myself. And to do that I need to get away from big cities and tourist attractions. And be ready to meet the real world. And if I can collect some memories and learn something. I will be happy.
Others may have other goals. I do not care. Let them do what they want. As long as I can be the one I want to be.
|

6 Nov 2020
|
Contributing Member
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: South East Queensland, Australia
Posts: 30
|
|
I, like Erik_G, will never write a book on my travels. The learnings I have from travel started a fair time ago and have not left me. They have been added to and changed over time.
I used to ride a motorcycle to work and university at night. After graduating I had an idea I should experience other parts of the world. I talked my employer into giving me at least six months off work so flew to Europe and bought a cheap car (not a motorcycle - but thought about swapping the car for a motorcycle in Holland but that is another story). Travelled as far north/ south/ east and west in Europe.
This was the mid seventies - no mobile phones, no internet, no GPS, many borders to cross money to change and talk your way into some of the Communist countries. You learn a few things about yourself and others in these (sometimes challenging) circumstances.
The learnings and experience from travel stay with you, in my opinion. I can still remember many of the characters I met where we had hearty conversations using a bit of English/German/French. A great education in people, life, geography and politics.
I think these things are personal and may not be of interest to others.
When we again venture to previously visited places we have a great basis to compare the (inevitable) changes over time. Again based on your own experiential framework.
I will say that motorcycle travel has more potential to brings out the best in people. Locals (in my experience) like to come up to a packed motorcycle rider and ask where you have been and where you are going. "But you have not been to ***, I will show you on your map where to go!" Priceless.
|

24 Nov 2020
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 39
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal_C
<snip>
This was the mid seventies - no mobile phones, no internet, no GPS, many borders to cross money to change and talk your way into some of the Communist countries. You learn a few things about yourself and others in these (sometimes challenging) circumstances.
The learnings and experience from travel stay with you, in my opinion. I can still remember many of the characters I met where we had hearty conversations using a bit of English/German/French. A great education in people, life, geography and politics.
<snip>
|
That sounds so good/positive..
|

30 Nov 2020
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 231
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikebarton
I remember being in Addis Ababa and meeting a cyclist heading for London. He'd started off in Cape Town. I left him my phone number. Much later home in London I got a message left on the phone just saying he made it and ' thanks for the coffee'.  That was it...never heard from him again.
Follow my drift?
|
I met a few of these travelers on the road, very modest and have extensive travel experience but keep mostly to themselves. These guys are usualy awesome to travel with and are a goldmine of information and good advice. They wont boast about anything but you start asking questions you quickly realize that they have are the real deal and they probably have a few books in them. Keep these guys in your contact list and give them some help if you can.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Hybrid Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes.
(ONLY US RESIDENTS and currently has a limit of 60 days.)
Ripcord Evacuation Insurance is available for ALL nationalities.
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!

Every book a diary
Every chapter a day
Every day a journey
Refreshingly honest and compelling tales: the hights and lows of a life on the road. Solo, unsupported, budget journeys of discovery.
Authentic, engaging and evocative travel memoirs, overland, around the world and through life.
All 8 books available from the author or as eBooks and audio books
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|