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Photo by Sean Howman, The Pamir highway in an unseasonably cold late October, Tajikistan

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A bit steep priced. And that exhaust
But except from that a great alternative lightweight bike for places without highways aka most of the world. And you will get anywhere any other advbike gets, and many other places a big advbike never will be able to go.

Its made in Japan btw. But they sell them in Thailand now and it seems to be very popular there.

Another alternative is the Honda XR190L. Theres an aussie guy called Warro that has several video reviews on that bike.
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Its made in Japan btw. But they sell them in Thailand .
NOT made in Japan. Made in Thailand according to the Japanese pamphlet I have.


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Why does it matter where assembly is?

The parts are Chinese and Indian regardless. The management is either good or it isn't. Honda's have a good reputation.

If a Made in the USA sticker makes you think the product is better give my regards to the 1950's. If you want rubbish employ a lot of Germans who know their tenure is so secure and labour so difficult to recruit they don't have to care. The factories that win awards? Nissan in Sunderland (Japanese and Japanese trained managers, British workers evolved from the mess that was British Leyland) and Hyundai (nearly all Korean and not a nice way to work, but they do it). My Thai built Triumph and Hondas have all been spot on.

Don't kid yourself with labels, let the product do the talking.

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yeah, very good for senior citizens for shopping or fishing...
I'll be a senior in a handful more years, and that looks like it might be great for shopping or fishing. Hmm....
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NOT made in Japan. Made in Thailand according to the Japanese pamphlet I have.
Well - you might be correct but according to information from thai dealers and I also read it somewhere and the fact that it was said to be sold in Japan first and then in Thailand - told me it was made in Japan.

But as mentioned above - Hondas made in Thailand are just as good if not better than those made in Japan. So if youre correct it shouldnt be any dealbreaker for anyone.
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Another alternative is the Honda XR190L. Theres an aussie guy called Warro that has several video reviews on that bike.
Alas, even the fuel-injected XR190L is too dirty to be sold in the EU new. Euro 3 at best, as far as I know. Great bike indeed, though - I rented an XR150L in Vietnam and really enjoyed it.
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Alas, even the fuel-injected XR190L is too dirty to be sold in the EU new. Euro 3 at best, as far as I know. Great bike indeed, though - I rented an XR150L in Vietnam and really enjoyed it.
I bought a 150 in India and did 8,500km on it with a passenger great bike, the advantage of a 125cc to Brits is it give a lot more choice of travel insurance, many have a 125cc limit or load the premium to cover larger.
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Well, we're all headed in that direction. Some faster than others.

It's a much better option than sitting in your barcalounger (whatever that is?) and watching TV, no?

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I'm sorry but it's a pile of crap....!! CRF250 all day long if that's what we are comparing too. There will however be a market for it no doubt, each to there own....
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Please don’t forget us tall riders during these small bike discussions.
I love the look of this bike and it might be okay to pop to the shops on but for any distance it would have to be a 250 Rally with stiffer rear spring and a raised saddle for me.
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This guy who is travelling on a Honda C90 is doing more adventurous stuff and going to more far flung places and riding more adventurous roads than 99,9 % of all other motorbike travellers. In fact - most of what he do wouldnt be possible with a huge tank of an adv bike, especially not transporting it as handluggage on a small sailboat between Panama and Colombia....

Whats not to like about a small travel moto?

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Hondas made in Thailand are just as good if not better than those made in Japan.
But are they manufactured or assembled in Thailand? i don`t have any issues with a Thai person putting a box of bits together, i wan to know who is making the parts.

Is it just the usual Chinese junk put together in Thailand & the only part Japanese is the brand name on the tank? we should be told this.

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Please don’t forget us tall riders during these small bike discussions.
When tall riders start complaining that bikes are not built for them, we're officially done.

Anyway, I'm 180cm and I felt perfectly comfortable sitting on a Super Cub (and going on some pretty bad roads on other scooters).
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Is it just the usual Chinese junk put together in Thailand & the only part Japanese is the brand name on the tank? we should be told this.
Reminds me of this very accurate portrayal of diagnosing a KTM's electrical system in the courtyard of a backpacker hostel in Laos.

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This guy who is travelling on a Honda C90 is doing more adventurous stuff and going to more far flung places and riding more adventurous roads than 99,9 % of all other motorbike travellers. In fact - most of what he do wouldnt be possible with a huge tank of an adv bike, especially not transporting it as handluggage on a small sailboat between Panama and Colombia....

Whats not to like about a small travel moto?

https://youtu.be/vPIkvp8_CNQ
I would say that this is unfair to the 99.9% of motorbike travellers you speak of (possibly you’re being flippant to make a point).

1 - let’s not forget the Pre-digital travellers: No internet, mobile phones or even land lines in 99% of 3rd world countries - no land lines in a UK bed sit in the early 80s!!
2 - This guy makes his living doing this so: a - he needs an angle, hence the crazy guy, doing crazy things on a crazy bike. b- he has all the time in the world - he doesn’t have to go back to work, he’s already there.
3 - He’s young: he hasn’t built up any responsibilities yet and he’s strong and supple.
4 - Not everyone has the persona or wants to tell the world about their adventures - I’ve met quite a few people who are very unassuming and will only talk about their adventures if asked.
5 - It’s all relative.
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