26Likes
 |
|

9 Jun 2021
|
 |
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 658
|
|
How rigorous are you with chain maintenance?
What's your regime - please let us know what your triggers for maintaining your chain is and what it consists of.
----
I swear to Ipone chain cleaner and transmission oil for lubing. On the road, unless on a very long trip, I resort to diesel, a tooth brush and a rag (don't carry lube except for on very long trips).
I'm rigorous with my chain maintenance. I try to clean after every "longish" ride or 500 kms, whichever comes first. If I've been riding in filth, I may do it as soon as it is convenient to do so. Also, before and after garaging the bike for a long time.
|

10 Jun 2021
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Tartu, Estonia
Posts: 1,139
|
|
Relaxed. I mostly ride on tarmac, I use high-quality sealed chains, I watch the rollers and lube the chain when they start getting shiny (rather than dull) and about every 1000km. I have a Kettenmax chain cleaning thingie but mostly just use it when I see that the chain is filthy; I'll also clean it off with a power-washer when I wash my bike.
On a long trip, when I do 500-700km per day, yeah I will lube the chain afterwards. And if it's been raining.
|

10 Jun 2021
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Oxford UK
Posts: 2,120
|
|
I'm an 'as and when' chain owner. I have a diy chain oiler (or did before I broke it recently) on one of my main bikes and every time I stop for fuel I'll glance at the chain. If it looks dry I'll set the oiler to deliver some over the next 20-30 miles. If it looks oily I'll leave it alone. Unless it's wet in which case it'll get more oil more often.
No chain cleaning though; I bought into that many years ago when you had to take the chain off, scrub it in paraffin and boil it in some sort of black grease. No longer I'm afraid. I'd rather replace the chain than go through that again. If dirt wears it out then so be it.
My little 125 Suzuki has an enclosed chain. I put some oil on it 10,000 miles ago when I changed the front sprocket. It's still oily and hasn't worn. Not bad for something not much bigger than a bicycle chain with no O or Z or any other sort of rings. Just goes to show what the bigger bikes are missing (protection in case you're wondering)
|

10 Jun 2021
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Finland
Posts: 184
|
|
I add a little oil with my chain oiler at the beginning and end of each ride. Thats it.
Last edited by frameworkSpecialist; 10 Jun 2021 at 16:17.
|

10 Jun 2021
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Yorkshire UK
Posts: 1,785
|
|
Take the advice your mother gave when you were nine: "If you keep playing with it, it'll drop off".
Andy
|

10 Jun 2021
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: May 2011
Location: midlands uk
Posts: 252
|
|
Anyway , Andy, back to chains !!
I oil my chain through a syringe and tube that is fixed near front sprocket and
i use old engine oil and i never let my chain run dry !
33,000 miles on a crf1000 and the chain was as good as new !
K
|

11 Jun 2021
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 276
|
|
Cleaning chain on your Vespa?
Sent from my Z981 using Tapatalk
|

12 Jun 2021
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Scottish but now in just touring.
Posts: 35
|
|
Riding bikes continuously for 43 years now and since automatic chain oilers became available I have used nothing else since.
|

12 Jun 2021
|
 |
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 658
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Madbiker
Riding bikes continuously for 43 years now and since automatic chain oilers became available I have used nothing else since.
|
Curious about chain oilers - know nothing about it. Doesn't it create a mess? Does it lube effectively and evenly? How about cleaning?
To me, cleaning is as important as lubing. And, using stuff that doesn't penetrate behind the rings or deteriorate them. It is also not only about the chain, but the sprocket as well.
|

13 Jun 2021
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 276
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheelie
Curious about chain oilers - know nothing about it. Doesn't it create a mess? Does it lube effectively and evenly? How about cleaning?
To me, cleaning is as important as lubing. And, using stuff that doesn't penetrate behind the rings or deteriorate them. It is also not only about the chain, but the sprocket as well.
|
IMHO you don't want it if you ride in dusty conditions oil + dust = grinding compound. It works very good if you mostly deal with the rain.
I try to do diesel cleaning/maintenance after wet or dirt ride, it ends up being something 500-2000mi give or take.
Personally I can't wait when BMW/Regina Endurance M diamond chain will be available in 520 size.
|

13 Jun 2021
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Yorkshire UK
Posts: 1,785
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheelie
Curious about chain oilers - know nothing about it. Doesn't it create a mess? Does it lube effectively and evenly? How about cleaning?
To me, cleaning is as important as lubing. And, using stuff that doesn't penetrate behind the rings or deteriorate them. It is also not only about the chain, but the sprocket as well.
|
They are lash-ups. Everything from someones high school electronics project through to hospital syringes and fish tank hose. The environment at the chain sprocket interface will make a surface protection/paint/adhesives engineer sit sucking his thumb rocking back and forth in the fetal position, it is no place for 3M pads and cable ties. If you are lucky they stay put and apply something like a suitable amount of suitable lube. If you are unlucky they get cut to pieces when they lose out in fight with the chain, drench the tyre in a unsuitable lube or do nothing and give you a false sense of security.
I will not have another. Scotoil was the wrong lube, too sticky, never going to do anything more than stick dirt on and make grinding paste. Engine oil rotted the seals on one of the fish tank hose and syringe contraptions and a bit of WD-40 can straw bosticked in was never going to control the flow. Both cost more in time and cash than I'd have spent with a rag and oil can or stripping the back end of a Bavarian Behemoth to get at the splines.
The correct current solution is the factory made, bellows design chain case MZ used. Industrial chain lasted 100k+ miles. I hope the BMW teflon/diamond works. Until then is it really so hard to wipe it with an oily rag?*
*I don't use spray cans, sticky is bad. Tot up how much you'd pay wurth and you may as well just buy a new chain when they wear out. These things wre consumables, so consume them.
Before buying an oiler do a lifetime cost analysis. I'd have to successfully transfer the same oiler from bike to bike three times.
Andy
|

21 Jun 2021
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Scottish but now in just touring.
Posts: 35
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheelie
Curious about chain oilers - know nothing about it. Doesn't it create a mess? Does it lube effectively and evenly? How about cleaning?
To me, cleaning is as important as lubing. And, using stuff that doesn't penetrate behind the rings or deteriorate them. It is also not only about the chain, but the sprocket as well.
|
The one I use has an adjustable flow so you can decide how much lube it needs in any given situation.. Very effective, no mess, and I use SAE 90 gear oil in it so no issues with damaging solvents. It also only dispenses oil once the revs rise above idle speed so no puddles of oil if stationary whilst idling. As for dusty conditions, I turn the flow up and this prevents the grinding problem.
|

22 Jun 2021
|
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bellingham, WA, USA
Posts: 4,017
|
|
Seems to me that to the extent that turning the flow rate up helps with "the grinding problem," it would necessarily be because enough oil is being dumped on the chain so that it washes off the dust....onto the ground, mixed with a lot of oil. I'm not sure that's ideal, exactly.
I put my bike(s) up on center stand, idle in gear, and spritz liberally with WD40 to wash off dust, grit, and grime. Then I wipe with a rag while still running, risking serious injury or dismemberment. Then I forget about it for another 300, 500, or 800 miles before doing the same again. Mostly this happens in my garage, where a couple of rags captures the wash; away from home, I try to find someplace less rather than more obnoxious to pollute.
I've given up lubing O or X ring chains--the WD40 is for cleaning, not lubrication. They last a good long time, then I replace them...using clip-links. I don't replace front or rear sprockets at the same time unless visibly worn, and these, too, seem to last a long time. Call me crazy.
|

22 Mar 2024
|
 |
Gold Member
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 17
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheelie
Curious about chain oilers - know nothing about it. Doesn't it create a mess? Does it lube effectively and evenly? How about cleaning?
To me, cleaning is as important as lubing. And, using stuff that doesn't penetrate behind the rings or deteriorate them. It is also not only about the chain, but the sprocket as well.
|
I use DIY oiler and the main advantage is saving me the hassle of lubing the chain after a day of riding. Additionally, I can use engine oil, which I normally carry to top off oil that burnt, so I don't have to carry another lubricant.
I usually turn off auto lubrication before going on a dirt road.
|

27 Mar 2024
|
 |
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 4,994
|
|
I tried Tuturo chain oiler on a couple of bikes. Motion actuated and adjustable flow are good ideas but I found the nozzle got knocked off in the dirt.
Now I use a small bottle of Muc-Off C3 dry lube every other day or on the road.
Pre-clean dirt with a toothbrush.
Dab onto the brush and apply around the chain.
C3 seems to attract less grit, though it is for pushbikes.
I used to use engine oil, better than nothing, but for a ride of a few weeks a bottle of proper lube will last.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes.
(ONLY US RESIDENTS and currently has a limit of 60 days.)
Ripcord Evacuation Insurance is available for ALL nationalities.
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!

Every book a diary
Every chapter a day
Every day a journey
Refreshingly honest and compelling tales: the hights and lows of a life on the road. Solo, unsupported, budget journeys of discovery.
Authentic, engaging and evocative travel memoirs, overland, around the world and through life.
All 8 books available from the author or as eBooks and audio books
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|