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Old 23 Apr 2008
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Maybe Jerry Springer was onto something?

I saw Jerry Springer interviewed once (quite an intelligent guy!).

He claimed his TV show could only work in the USA. When asked why - he had said no-one was paid to go on his show and there were no professional actors, so you need a population happy and willing to humiliate themselves publicly, and in his opinion only about 10% of any population would be of that ilk - and that in the USA that meant 25,000,000 people...

Just a theory...

Seriously, everyone likes to take a shot at the guy on top from time to time - in Australia we call it the "tall poppy syndrome". And it's easy to find fault in anyone's work. I think most here have nailed it on the head - the people charged with presenting an image of the USA to the world (ie the govt.) could be doing a better job. (Thank God we have a new govt ourselves...)

Personally I have some great mates from the US, and hope to get there one day - everyone I've met say the people are friendly and hospitable.

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I saw Jerry Springer interviewed once (quite an intelligent guy!).

He claimed his TV show could only work in the USA. When asked why - he had said no-one was paid to go on his show and there were no professional actors, so you need a population happy and willing to humiliate themselves publicly, and in his opinion only about 10% of any population would be of that ilk - and that in the USA that meant 25,000,000 people...
You want to watch the Jeremy Kyle Show. I'm fairly sure the participants get some form of payment but they really are the dregs of society in the UK. I don't watch it often but I remember Jeremy asking one of these bagheads about how her own childhood was and she replied, "My Mum was a good parent, apart from that time when we were taken into care".

Seriously though, watching it is a kind of therapy. It makes you realise that no matter how bad life gets, there's always someone further up shit creek without a paddle than you.
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The International Criminal Court (I.C.C.) located in the Hague, Netherlands can try the US.

If no one stops a crimanal he is not going to stop him self.

The US is a producer we make things when you make stuff and you your a rich wasteful git you tend pollute. Most of the US pollution is from a vary few huge companies. Making them stop will just lose the US more jobs. Posing that and you stuff your chances at reelection. As it happens If you look at Europen history at the start of the industrial revolution it was as bad as the US ever was. You had a few World Wars cleared all that junk out and moved what was left of the production to the rest of the world including the US. WE are in slow process of moving it 3rd world now allowing them the fun and health benefits of destroying there environment just like we have for 100 or so years. As far as environment Scandinavians are not saints Environmental Enemy Number 1? Reine - a Norwegian Fishing and Whaling Community had to look at the head line. But as you see Norway wont follow a no whaling ban that make Norway bad? no there following there way of life the same as most Americans.

One of the major problems the US faces is not the cold its the heat. Cooling takes more power than heating and power generation pollutes when you dont have thermal vents, hydroelectric, or clean gas we have cheap derty coal. We have hydroelectric where I live but thats not good for the environment just Co2 emissions. Here there thinking of boring in to the crust miles deep to make a man made thermal vent to try to cut down on US power emissions. Its not like we are not trying.
The population densities in the US Demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia we are spread out on the map moving an item from Seattle to Miami is about Oslo to Baghdad that trucks emishions in the US is all in the US from Oslo you get to split it up 10 times. (Think about doing this trip this year! Seattle to Miami)

Who makes the newspapers? google yellow journalism. Rich basterds looking for fools to do there derty work and pay to do it. Will not mater if its the people running the USA or the rich basterds running AL-Qaeda. Same reason same outcome.

We can use the guns on oppressive governments but to get the job done right we need a nuke you realy want a foolish Texas redneck to have one? Oh thats right never mind.

Bastardisation of the English language? old English? or one of the newer ones? seems the people in the UK do as a good job on as the US. History of the English language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I hope people question there own press as much as I question mine. If the "freest press in the world" will lie what will yours do?

yeah I got some answer. Having lots of fun to!

I dont get UK TV here so I dont know about the TV shows
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British Television is a true bastion of unbiased fact based news and well-balanced representations of public opinion........ anyone for Kilroy (unfortunately you don't get this, or at least I hope you don't!). Unfortunately as Britain is getting stupider at a semi-exponential rate its only going to get worse.
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.... a nuke you realy want a foolish Texas redneck to have one? Oh thats right never mind.
mmmm, I would worry for all of us if a Texas redneck had his finger on the button........
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As far as environment Scandinavians are not saints Environmental Enemy Number 1? Reine - a Norwegian Fishing and Whaling Community had to look at the head line. But as you see Norway wont follow a no whaling ban that make Norway bad? no there following there way of life the same as most Americans.
If you want this to be informative it could be wise to bash other countries in a separate thread. There is a lot of subjects..

It’s funny that you mention the whale-stuff. The US went out really hard on that one, before they realized they where wrong.

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The US authorities, too, have openly acknowledged (in May 1993 note to Iceland and Norway) that these minke whale stocks are capable of being harvested on a sustainable basis.
Well, at least it was just a boycott and bad publicity, they didn’t let the bombs fall.


I’m not surprised to see that the rest of your post proves that there is not much will to solve the problems.
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yes yes the uber boycott. Did nothing. You know how many the USA has going on it?

To see what the US is doing with the enviernment. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
try Kyoto in the search.

Will has little to do with fixing problems.
Please dont look to my post for prof of anything. But as your not surprised by my post I did not know many Americans are asking the USA to be taken to task on perceived slights by the a world court.

Did I vote for the war? nope the citizens dont get to presidential order and congress allocates the money. Do I like it nope.

Norway has troops out there so you didnt find another way. We gust put more out there than you.

How can I make someone like me? The Billions of $ over the years dint do it. They hate me because Im not them If they kill the US off they will gust go on to the next. AL-Qaeda are not the good guys. I dont want to post there web sights there ahhhh unsettling.

Dint mean to off my own topic but you are the one bring up Kyoto protocols. There only to do with greenhouse gas. I just openend the enviernmental Idea up a little. for the people at home Kyoto Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kyoto cant be enforce but the world can impose trade sanctions on the US for not doing it. like this EU leaders urge trade sanctions on U.S., China

Think the new US leadership will change anything?

Hope I get more replies.

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To see what the US is doing with the enviernment. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
try Kyoto in the search.
In 2002 the CO2 emissions from us was 5,773 million tons, China had 3,783 million tons.
Lets say that Chinas level (per capita) rises to the US-level (why should the US be allowed to have a higher level then China?).
The CO2 emissions from China alone will then reach 26,6 million tons! Disaster…

In India they have said that they will keep the emission level below OECD-average (per capita).
Well, it’s a fair statement but this means that India can increase their total level above the sum of USA, China and Russia! Another disaster…

For various reasons this will probably never happens, but the point is that a lot of countries will increase their emissions and the western world has to reduce their emissions.
The Kyoto was not perfect. It was a start for doing something, but….

This is not only valid for CO2 but various natural resources (power++)

I’m not saying that Europe is doing well here, but on these important subjects the western countries has to cooperate and someone has a problem with that.



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Will has little to do with fixing problems.
That’s explains a lot….


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Did I vote for the war? nope the citizens dont get to presidential order and congress allocates the money. Do I like it nope.
Sure I guess most Americans don’t like it, most Americans are nice people!

On the other hand it is Americans that controls the American media, it’s Americans who votes for the president, the different candidates are Americans and the president himself is an American.

Democracy has a lot of weak points. Joseph de Maistre once said that “Every country has the government it deserves.”
I’m not saying its true but it’s worth a reflection.


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Norway has troops out there so you didnt find another way. We gust put more out there than you.
Yes we have troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan; someone invaded the countries (but most of the world didn’t like it) and UN asked for peacekeeping forces (stupid word).

Do you remember the bashing of France and freedom fries? Freedom fries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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How can I make someone like me? The Billions of $ over the years dint do it. They hate me because Im not them If they kill the US off they will gust go on to the next. AL-Qaeda are not the good guys. I dont want to post there web sights there ahhhh unsettling
Well, the rest of the western world is not “one of them” either and most of them don’t share your problems.



Back in 2001 the US-embassy in Oslo got equipped with huge fences (on the sidewalk!), armed guards and they closed one of the streets going close by. It’s still like this.
I tried to enter once but was not allowed (don’t know why). In most of the other embassies you can walk directly in.
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