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Is MOROCCO the best allround destination ?

I have not been around the world, but been to many places on Motor bikes ............... and have come to the conclusion that Morocco has it all

1 Fantastic scenery in spring
2 Cheap Hotels
3 Cheap food
4 Very friendly people
5 loads of off road to do
6 If you live europe easy to get to
7 Still many parts that are still non touristy
8 Best to travel on your own for a better interaction with locals
9 Best places to visit.....
.... Cassablanca Safi Tiznit Sidi ifini Marrakesh Atlas mountains Taroudant
10 You can do it in 2 weeks, but 4- 6 is better !

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Without a doubt, I've been exploring Morocco and the Western Sahara for over 20 years now, last 5 years living out there for most of the year.

Anyone who says they've "done Morocco" after a 2 week trip has missed 99.99% of whats on offer
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In two weeks your a Tourist !!
In 6 weeks your a traveller
But it takes time to understand a place and the people
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MOROCCO is amazing, but it's not my favourite.

I'm a sucker for Asian food (and women) so my absolute favourite is Vietnam. The prices are dirt cheap and the children still have that wonder in their eyes when they see a white person. The scenery is breath taking and there is a little bit of everything with mountains in the North and a long coast line.

Vietnam still also has some of that old world danger. Things are not as regulated like they are here in the west.
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I have not been to Morocco yet but it would have to go some to beat the Indian sub-continent for me, between Pakistan, India and Nepal there is so much, although many parts of overpopulated you can still find the bits in between that are great.
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I think @badou's question should have been "Is Morocco the best all-round destination that you can easily ride to from Europe?" and then the answer will probably be "yes". The subtitle to my Morocco presentations at Horizons Unlimited meetings has always been 'Safe, Exciting and Inexpensive'.

Culture wasn't mentioned above and for me the mountain/desert areas of Morocco that were the last to be subdued by the French in the late 1930s were the time capsule of a tribal life that goes back centuries. On my last trip I met one old lady with tatooed face who was a young girl at the time.

If all goes well I plan to be in Morocco on 8 May 2022 for the 50th anniversary of my first motorbike trip to Morocco. Insha'Allah.
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I think @badou's question should have been "Is Morocco the best all-round destination that you can easily ride to from Europe?" and then the answer will probably be "yes". The subtitle to my Morocco presentations at Horizons Unlimited meetings has always been 'Safe, Exciting and Inexpensive'.

Culture wasn't mentioned above and for me the mountain/desert areas of Morocco that were the last to be subdued by the French in the late 1930s were the time capsule of a tribal life that goes back centuries. On my last trip I met one old lady with tatooed face who was a young girl at the time.

If all goes well I plan to be in Morocco on 8 May 2022 for the 50th anniversary of my first motorbike trip to Morocco. Insha'Allah.
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I think @badou's question should have been "Is Morocco the best all-round destination that you can easily ride to from Europe?" and then the answer will probably be "yes".

If all goes well I plan to be in Morocco on 8 May 2022 for the 50th anniversary of my first motorbike trip to Morocco. Insha'Allah.
It's certainly the country that gives the most culture shock per gallon if you're heading out from the UK (or most places in northern Europe). The EU has brought a sense of familiarity to travelling through e.g. France, Spain, but take that 20 mile ferry ride and it all changes. If 'going abroad' used to be crossing from Dover to Calais its now moved to getting on the ferry in Algeciras.

Re 50th - mine was last August and we had also planned a return visit - on the same model bike. Sadly Covid saw that plan off, as it has the revised version for 2021. Now we're looking at August 2022. The 52nd anniversary doesn't have quite the same ring to it but it's the best we can do under the circumstances.

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Sounds pretty good - but a tad more difficult for those of us across the big pond to travel to.
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Sounds pretty good - but a tad more difficult for those of us across the big pond to travel to.
Fly in, rent a bike or 4x4 and enjoy
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I think you may miss the point. Living in North America, Mexico checks all the same boxes (along with others, like a wide variety of scenery, cultures, ecosystems) plus it's easy to get to. Morocco is expensive once I include shipping a bike or renting on the ground, even without airfare.

I've ridden in both countries (plus an additional 60 or 70 more). I loved Morocco, and hope to get back there some day, but that's not a simple thing from where I sit. There are good reasons why I've been to Mexico by bike a half-dozen times, and I've generally enjoyed it as much as I did Morocco.

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Cost wasn't mentioned, being difficult was, its no more difficult from across the pond as anywhere else.
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I'm not sure how to understand what you're saying. First, the title of the thread is "Is Morocco the best allround destination?" Do you really think answers to that question don't include cost?

Second, I've taken a bike to Morocco from Europe; I pulled into town (a couple of days' happy riding from much of Europe), bought a ticket, and was comfortably lodged in North Africa a couple of hours later. Do you seriously propose that it would be just as easy from North America? I can't quite fathom this. Maybe try the reverse scenario: would a trip to Mexico be "no more difficult" for a European than for a North American?

This is not a winner-take-all competition. Morocco may well be the best bang for the buck from southern or central Europe or the U.K., but things look very different from where I live. I'm ok with that.

See you on the road, sooner or later.

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The tread did say from europe ( item 6 ) so it does not apply to some people !
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