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Photo by Andy Miller, UK, Taking a rest, Jokulsarlon, Iceland

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somebody is overthinking it...
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so ........... shall we all just sell our bikes and play scrabble !
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so ........... shall we all just sell our bikes and play scrabble !
Hold on, wait a minute, what are we saying here, let me throw in a grenade with my overweight, cumbersome, none practical scratch built, only one in existence, not a factory built BMW, 2 wheeled Landrover....!!! Is it a 'Myth' ...??? No, it's 'True', it really does exist and one day it will be coming to a continent near you..!!!

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Here's a little algorithm that I apply to my life;

Believe a quarter of what you read,
Half of what you are told,
Much of what you see for yourself.

It's dead easy (in this medium, as well as other media) to work out which reports are consigned to the rejected three quarters of the first line.
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somebody is overthinking it...
If you have the capacity its not possible to overthink something, but it is certainly possible to underthink it if you do not!
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Hold on, wait a minute, what are we saying here, let me throw in a grenade with my overweight, cumbersome, none practical scratch built, only one in existence, not a factory built BMW, 2 wheeled Landrover....!!! Is it a 'Myth' ...??? No, it's 'True', it really does exist and one day it will be coming to a continent near you..!!!

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Looks like OUR 'Over Thinker' has removed his thesis.....!!!! Oh Dear..!!!
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Looks like OUR 'Over Thinker' has removed his thesis.....!!!! Oh Dear..!!!
It was deleted because unlike yourselves, I didn't want to make a big thing out of something that doesn't matter, but like all British people like you, the only reaction you can have when faced with something you do not understand is to try and bring it to down to your level...

If you have the capacity, it's not possible to overthink something, but it's certainly possible to underthink it. So maybe it's best removed to make way for a pictorial version for you!

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I'm quite confused by the original post, and also quite confused by many of the replies.

I've ridden my Canadian motorcycle through every Western, Central, & Eastern European country as well as all of North Africa from Morocco to Libya - I've done that for at least a month every year (not all the countries every year, obviously) for the past 20 years.

I don't consider any of that travel to be "adventure" travel - to me, it's just travel for the pleasure of it on a type of vehicle I enjoy operating.

During my working life, I was an aircraft pilot. in the 1980s & 1990s, I flew for the International Committee of the Red Cross, in war relief, in the civil wars in Angola, Mozambique, Liberia, Western Sahara (back when it was WS), South Sudan, Somalia, etc. I've been shot down with a missile, taxied over land mines, but never thought that was "adventure" work - it was just pleasant & interesting work.

More recently, just before I retired, I would deliver new aircraft from the factory to customers all over the world - I usually visited about 60 different countries every year. I didn't consider that to be "adventurous" - again, it was just pleasant & interesting work.

Why do we need to call something an "adventure" to make it seem worthwhile? Just do what you enjoy doing, that's all that matters.

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It was deleted because unlike yourselves, I didn't want to make a big thing out of something that doesn't matter, but like all British people like you, the only reaction you can have when faced with something you do not understand is to try and bring it to down to your level...

If you have the capacity, it's not possible to overthink something, but it's certainly possible to underthink it. So maybe it's best removed to make way for a pictorial version for you!
It's not a case of 'Don't Understand' , it's a case of whether a post is relevant or not. Your obviously a super intelligent member of this forum that is clear to see but your post was a clear display of it, way beyond me I'm not ashamed to admit. As for slagging off the British, go for it, not a problem, we love banter. You should know this anyway, your forefathers would have taken the 'banter' gene with them surely...???!!!
At the end of the day you ride a bike and travel, that's good enough for me to call you a Brother, super intellect wouldn't help you roadside broken down but I would stop and help you out and expect nothing in return. Lets keep this sensible please.....

In the meantime I'll get my colouring book out and my crayons....!!!!!
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It's not a case of 'Don't Understand' , it's a case of whether a post is relevant or not. Your obviously a super intelligent member of this forum that is clear to see but your post was a clear display of it, way beyond me I'm not ashamed to admit. As for slagging off the British, go for it, not a problem, we love banter. You should know this anyway, your forefathers would have taken the 'banter' gene with them surely...???!!!
At the end of the day you ride a bike and travel, that's good enough for me to call you a Brother, super intellect wouldn't help you roadside broken down but I would stop and help you out and expect nothing in return. Lets keep this sensible please.....

In the meantime I'll get my colouring book out and my crayons....!!!!!
I'm actually from Manchester, born in Rusholme and dragged myself out. I was a fabrication welder before Thatcher destroyed the industry and I switched to Uni. Apart from funerals and the odd visit, I haven't been back for twenty years, why would you (Manchester) err... I agree let's be gentleman, I will delete my post.

Thanks, Brother, I will lend you my colouring in pens

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Well what can I say; to take the road less travelled, I'm sorry to see your post's been removed. Sure, not many of us are sociologists, psychologists or anthropologists (although my kids are!) but it doesn't hurt from time to time to reflect on why we do what we do. And now's not a bad time to do it as actual travel is thin on the ground.

I'm not sure we need to go as far as turn it into an academic discipline (although others do - https://motorcyclestudies.org/volume...-david-walton/ ) but there's been enough posts here over the last few months that suggest people are, at some level at least, kicking the tin can around inside their heads. Even the BBC have been getting in on the act with a programme on R4 a few days ago considering the difference between a tourist and a pilgrim (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00r8d8q )

Most of the travel books (bike or otherwise) that make it to the top of the must read lists here all have some degree of reflection or (more rarely) analysis built into their pages. To dismiss it all as pointless is doing the authors a disservice. Everybody makes decisions when they travel - take this photograph rather than that, turn down here rather than there, talk to him and not him. It goes with the territory. All I'm suggesting is that it's occasionally a good idea to look at why you make those decisions. The answer doesn't have to be couched in impenetrable academese.
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Hold on, wait a minute, what are we saying here, let me throw in a grenade with my overweight, cumbersome, none practical scratch built, only one in existence, not a factory built BMW, 2 wheeled Landrover....!!! Is it a 'Myth' ...??? No, it's 'True', it really does exist and one day it will be coming to a continent near you..!!!

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Hold on, wait a minute, what are we saying here, let me throw in a grenade with my overweight, cumbersome, none practical scratch built, only one in existence, not a factory built BMW, 2 wheeled Landrover....!!! Is it a 'Myth' ...??? No, it's 'True', it really does exist and one day it will be coming to a continent near you..!!!

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Looks good. Is it available in blue?

Seriously, it does look good and it is nice to see it out and about.
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Looks good. Is it available in blue?

Seriously, it does look good and it is nice to see it out and about.
Sorry, only in KTM Orange...!!!

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