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For more than 10 years as Elisa (rosa del desieto) and I have traveled the world by "motorbikes" we have come to consider Horizonsunlimited.com as extended family. The reason, quite frankly is.... for extended periods of time we have been in more communication with the HUBB than our genetic relatives.
At the precise moment of my last post - during which I referenced my 96 year old Father, he died. My brother Tom Home | Tom George Yacht Group - TGYG
Tom George Yacht Group/Clearwater, Florida sent me an e-mail saying our Father had died in his arms.
Look, I don't know if this was a coincidence or synchronicity but it happened,
just thought I might share this with you. Read the post....
We are flying to Florida. Vote!
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Sorry for your loss.
96 was one hell of an innings.
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Originally Posted by xfiltrate
For more than 10 years as Elisa (rosa del desieto) and I have traveled the world by "motorbikes" we have come to consider Horizonsunlimited.com as extended family. The reason, quite frankly is.... for extended periods of time we have been in more communication with the HUBB than our genetic relatives.
At the precise moment of my last post - during which I referenced my 96 year old Father, he died. My brother Tom Home | Tom George Yacht Group - TGYG
Tom George Yacht Group/Clearwater, Florida sent me an e-mail saying our Father had died in his arms.
Look, I don't know if this was a coincidence or synchronicity but it happened,
just thought I might share this with you. Read the post....
We are flying to Florida. Vote!
Gracias xfiltrate
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My condolences to you and your family. I'll be going through a similar situation in the coming weeks. Stay strong. Peace & Love.
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What sad news. Condolences to you and your family. This is a generation that did great things.
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1803–1815 Napoleonic Wars
1804–1813 First Serbian Uprising
1804–1813 Russo-Persian War
1808–1809 Finnish War
1809 Polish–Austrian War
1815–1817 Second Serbian Uprising
1817–1864 Russian conquest of the Caucasus
1821–1832 Greek War of Independence
1821 Wallachian uprising
1823 French invasion of Spain
1826–1828 Russo-Persian War
1827 War of the Malcontents
1828–1829 Russo-Turkish War
1828–1834 Liberal Wars
1830 Ten Days' Campaign (following the Belgian Revolution)
1830–1831 November Uprising
1831 Canut revolts
1831–1832 Bosnian Uprising
1831–1836 Tithe War
1832 War in the Vendée and Chouannerie of 1832
1832 June Rebellion
1833–1839 First Carlist War
1833–1839 Albanian Revolts of 1833–39
1843–1844 Albanian Revolt of 1843–44
1846 Galician slaughter
1846–1849 Second Carlist War
1847 Albanian Revolt of 1847
1847 Sonderbund War
1848–1849 Hungarian Revolution and War of Independence
1848–1851 First Schleswig War
1848–1849 First Italian War of Independence
1853–1856 Crimean War
1854 Epirus Revolt of 1854
1858 Mahtra War
1859 Second Italian War of Independence
1861–62 Montenegrin–Ottoman War (1861–62)
1863–1864 January Uprising
1864 Second Schleswig War
1866 Austro-Prussian War
1866–1869 Cretan Revolt
1866 Third Italian War of Independence
1867 Fenian Rising
1870–1871 Franco-Prussian War
1872–1876 Third Carlist War
1873–1874 Cantonal Revolution
1875–77 Herzegovina Uprising (1875–77)
1876–78 Serbian–Ottoman War (1876–78)
1876–78 Montenegrin–Ottoman War (1876–78)
1877–1878 Russo-Turkish War
1878 Epirus Revolt of 1878
1885 Serbo-Bulgarian War
1897 Greco–Turkish War
Head scratch.
None of the wars you quoted involved EU member states at the time of the war. What point am I missing?
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That what was said was that the Eu had kept peace in Europe, the EU is not Europe and Europe is not the EU. The wars I had listed took place in Europe. Last time I checked, Britain was an EU member state! BY the same logic none of those ones you listed involved countries who were EU member states at the time (and many of them not now!)!! ;o)
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Interestingly there was the Latin Monetary Union from the 1860's, some of whose members were involved in the wars during the "long peace". This was a French attempt to standardise precious metal content in coins giving them greater economic control over their neighbours, stop the Americans coming into their markets etc. Greece and the Vatican were chucked out for breaking the rules and it made naff all difference when it kicked off big style in 1914.
Who says history doesn't repeat itself.
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Flexit - the Movie
A few weeks ago I mentioned Flexit as being a realistic approach for dealing with the EU during the process of Brexit – and it is a process, rather than a one-off decision of 23 June.
Alongside the 400+ pages of that document there is now “Flexcit – the Movie”.
This comes in 3 parts of approx 20 minutes apiece – so that takes up another hour of your busy life, but you could always eat this particular elephant in bite sized chunks by means of the 3 part serial.
The presenter is not the most riveting on this planet (although he does warm to his subject) but the content is right up there with the explanations of what is actually happening right now in the EU and how to get out of the latter successfully.
Part 1 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HrIdJfMUcM
Part 2 – International regulations in particular – UNECE is the game to be playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWVZV0Y-B04
Part 3 - More about the EU as the middle man of globalisation (and getting in the way).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMUPL12_aJ8
+ the last few minutes summarise the Harrogate agenda.
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Lightening the mood
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Another graphic
on the subject of a customs union:-
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New EU symbol - just for the British
...and one final graphic that sums up everything else!
(CE marked of course)
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Fasthsip, that "Abandon Ship" cartoon is priceless! Just love it!
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What's the price in Germany?
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You need to do a lot of legwork for a proper comparison. Taxes are different in the three countries which will count for a lot of the difference.
Also, cars are rarely the same specification. The base UK spec is normally higher, so (for example) will include a radio/cd as standard plus electric windows all round whilst other countries might not. I've twice imported cars from Germany and the initial delight at the much lower price is tempered when you have to add chargeable extras to get it up to the UK spec.
As a quick example, the UK car is shown in Race Red which is a standard colour, but costs 300CHF extra in Switzerland. I couldn't be bothered to check what else was different.
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You need to do a lot of legwork for a proper comparison. Taxes are different in the three countries which will count for a lot of the difference.
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So do UK buyers pay more tax because they are in the EU?
I accept that it is difficult to make a direct comparison due to spec. differences but the fact that a car made in the EU sells for significantly less in Switzerland is ridiculous.
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