View Poll Results: Should Britain leave the E.U. ?
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No
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No.. But things MUST change
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I don't care
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Undecided
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why are you here then! anyways, speak for yourself, this is probably the most important decision this country has faced in generations, and it's being made by the people.
whether if exit win the politicians have the bollocks to see it though of course remains to be seen!!
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why are you here then! anyways, speak for yourself, this is probably the most important decision this country has faced in generations, and it's being made by the people.
whether if exit win the politicians have the bollocks to see it though of course remains to be seen!!
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I'm here to be amused and confused by the nonsense spoken by any.
My expert belief on the matter is that even if the vote is to leave then the EU will offer sweeteners to the UK to stay and the whole Brexit thing will have been a waste of time.
Brexit: Could There Be a Second Referendum?
But like I say, that's just my 'expert' opinion.
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why are you here then! anyways, speak for yourself, this is probably the most important decision this country has faced in generations, and it's being made by the people.
whether if exit win the politicians have the bollocks to see it though of course remains to be seen!!
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You are right on - we are making history.
The man with no opinion is an attention seeker. Should go to bed and let the grown-ups talk.
I got a brick of 1,000 leaflets and some posters and I was out all afternoon pushing leaflets thru doors and speaking to people. I can report BREXITERS were enthusiastic to rabidly so for leaving, remainers simply shrugged their shoulders. Migrants was a real trigger point.
Two people pointed this out to me which I looked into: Last week Nigel was lambasted by the intelligentsia and media luvvies for suggesting that immigrants might be a threat to women here: Four Syrian immigrants are charged after two girls, 14, 'were sexually assaulted yards from Newcastle's St James' Park just weeks after one of the men entered the UK'
Omar Badreddin, 18, Mohammed Alfrouh, 20, and Mohammad Allakkoud, 18, have pleaded not guilty to sexually assaulting a girl, 14, in Newcastle
A 16-year-old Syrian boy has also been charged with sexual assault
Mr Badreddin arrived in UK under the government's resettlement scheme
So far 1,602 Syrians - including Mr Badreddin - have arrived in the country
Thanks to Angela Merkel and the EU for inviting these hard working skilled people into Europe.
Another reason to get out of the corrupt EU.
Three Syrian men deny sex assault in Newcastle - BBC News
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Are they migrants or refugees?
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The Royal Navy is proud to announce its new fleet of Type 45 destroyers
Having initially named the first two ships HMS Daring and HMS Dauntless, the same Naming Committee that brought you "Boaty McBoatface" has, after intensive pressure from Brussels, renamed them HMS Cautious and HMS Prudence.
The next five ships are to be HMS Empathy, HMS Circumspect, HMS Nervous, HMS Timorous and HMS Apologist
Costing £850 million each, they comply with the very latest employment, equality, health and safety and human rights laws.
The Royal Navy fully expects any future enemy to be jolly decent and to comply with the same high standards of behaviour.
The new user-friendly crow's nest has excellent wheelchair access.
Live ammunition has been replaced with paintballs to reduce the risk of anyone getting hurt and to cut down on the number of compensation claims.
Stress counsellors and lawyers will be on board, as will a full sympathetic industrial tribunal.
The crew will be 50/50 men and women, and will contain the correct balance of race, gender, sexuality and disability.
Sailors will only work a maximum of 37hrs per week as per Brussels Directive on Working Hours, even in wartime.
All the vessels are equipped with a maternity ward, a crèche and a gay disco.
Tobacco will be banned throughout the ship, but recreational cannabis will be allowed in wardrooms and messes.
The Royal Navy is eager to shed its traditional reputation for; "Rum, sodomy and the lash"; so out has gone the rum ration, replaced by sparkling water. Sodomy remains, now extended to include all ratings under 18. The lash will still be available on request.
Saluting of officers is now considered elitist and has been replaced by "Hello Sailor".
All information on notice boards will be in 37 different languages and Braille.
Crew members will now no longer have to ask permission to grow beards and/or moustaches.
This applies equally to female crew.
There will be no Captain appointed, the ship will be run on a committee basis.
The MoD is inviting suggestions for a "non-specific" flag because the White Ensign may offend minorities. The Union Jack must never be seen. The EU reserves the right to fly its own flag at the stern at any time.
The newly re-named HMS Cautious will be commissioned shortly by Captain Hook from the Finsbury Park Mosque who will break a petrol bomb over the hull.
She will gently slide into the sea as the Royal Marines Band plays "In the Navy" by the Village People.
Her first deployment will be to escort boatloads of illegal immigrants to ports on England 's south coast.
The Prime Minister said, "Our ships reflect the very latest in modern thinking and they will always be able to comply with any new legislation from Brussels ..."
His final words were, "Britannia waives the rules."
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Why don't you answer Wildmans query? is it becauase you can't or you don't know?
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Another Brexit misinformation statement, even in a tongue in cheek post, the facts aren't correct or researched and still no understanding of the difference between illegal immigrant and refugees
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Why don't you answer Wildmans query? is it becauase you can't or you don't know?
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Are they migrants or refugees?
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I wonder if those little girls asked them that as they were (allegedly) being raped by them?
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Thats not the point, your trying to use that news story to justify leaving the EU.
Given that you haven't answered the question we'd be correct in assuming its yet another scare tactic by Brexit campaign which cannot be backed up with any fact
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It seems from the BBC report that at least one of them is a Syrian refugee. We will not stop accepting Syrian refugees if we leave the EU.
Migrant, quite right. But then don't they get stopped at Calais now?
Noted how the charge of sexual assault, terrible though that must be, has now become rape.
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We will not stop accepting Syrian refugees if we leave the EU.
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If Britain leaves the EU it will be up to Her Majesty's Government to decide if, where from and how many refugees are accepted in the UK. At this moment, while it is a complete mess, the EU is pulling the strings on that regard and using its influence. Mind you that David Cameron had a most sensible position on this regard, saying several months ago that the UK would not accept refugees included in some sort of EU quota but would, instead, pick them from the refugee camps. Exactly what several other countries do!
Funny thing on all this refugees saga; it seems that only now the Europeans realised that there are refugees. The next step will be to realise that there are refugees in many other places other than in Greece and Turkey. Perhaps some day the Europeans will even realise that there have been refugees during the last several decades in several parts of the world.
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One day soon the BREXITers and tabloid press will realise that the United Kingdom is a signatory to the 1951 United Nations Convention relating to the Status of Refugees.
Thats UN not EU, it can be easy to confuse 2 letter abbreviations!
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Yes, and I'm sure the UK will live up to its responsibilities. When the UK agreed to take 20,000 directly from Syrian Refugee camps these were refugees. According to UNHCR there are over 150,000 refugees and asylum seekers (applying for refugee status) in the UK.
When Germany agreed to take hundreds of thousands of Syrians, these were actually economic migrants as they had already previously reached a place of safe refuge (whether that's Turkey or any of the EU countries they travelled through on the way to Germany).
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One day soon the BREXITers and tabloid press will realise that the United Kingdom is a signatory to the 1951 United Nations Convention relating to the Status of Refugees.
Thats UN not EU, it can be easy to confuse 2 letter abbreviations!
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Just like most other countries worldwide. That doesn't mean that these countries receive refugees like if there was no tomorrow, does it? Neither refugees from Syria nor from any other place.
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The Royal Navy is proud to announce its new fleet of Type 45 destroyers
Having initially named the first two ships HMS Daring and HMS Dauntless, the same Naming Committee that brought you "Boaty McBoatface" has, after intensive pressure from Brussels, renamed them HMS Cautious and HMS Prudence.
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The Prime Minister said, "Our ships reflect the very latest in modern thinking and they will always be able to comply with any new legislation from Brussels ..."
His final words were, "Britannia waives the rules."
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........... because it has been around for quite a few years and is not updated, lacking any reference to uni-sex "heads" and the equal opportunities to have transgender folk aboard.
The secret life of a transgender airman - BBC News
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... When Germany agreed to take hundreds of thousands of Syrians, these were actually economic migrants as they had already previously reached a place of safe refuge (whether that's Turkey or any of the EU countries they travelled through on the way to Germany).
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I don't think that's a fair assessment. Turkey was subjected to more than a million (3 million if I remember correctly) refugees. It is a little heartless to suggest that from that point they become economic migrants.
Let's not forget that despite Fastship's rhetoric and jibes, many of the Syrians who have been displaced are professionals, teachers, shopkeepers, business people, tradesmen ...., not just the usual poor and weak, although I'm sure there are many of those too.
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