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Back to fundamentals
It has been a while since UK law has been mentioned herein.
The recent discussion about permits for being on the streets of the UK led me to lift from elsewhere the summary given below – it is fully in accord with the fundamentals of why I wish to be rid of the EU (but I still love Europe and it's peoples).
“Corpus Juris” is the name for the EU’s system of justice, providing one European Legal Area, a European Public Prosecutor and a European Criminal Code and in my view it’s one of the principle reasons to vote for Brexit.
Apart from doing away with jury trials it abolishes habeus corpus, i.e. the concept of “innocent until proven guilty”. Criminal investigations make no distinction between imprisonment for prosecution purposes or investigative purposes.
It transcends British law when a British person is under investigation by the European Public Prosecutor (EPP) who can request his remand in custody. . .for a period of up to 6 months, renewable for 3 months where there are reasonable grounds to suspect the accused has committed one of the offences defined, or good reasons for believing it necessary to stop him committing such an offence. . .” (Page 90, Article 20 of the EU’s own book, Corpus Juris).
The EPP can incarcerate someone for months without charge and it appears there’s no limit to the number of 3-month extensions. For instance, the case of Andrew Symeou from Enfield, who was extradited to Greece and languished in jail there, based on the signature of a magistrate that no UK judge could overturn despite the evidence against him being obtained under duress. He was in a Greek prison for almost a year and denied bail until the trial was adjourned.
It turns out he was wrongly arrested and framed for a crime he didn’t commit whilst on holiday in Greece.
According to :- Brits at their Best EU-Style Justice Corpus Juris Copyright 2008 David Rowlands, Catherine Glass and David Abbott – Corpus Juris makes very clear the implications for our legal system and individual rights:- “What we propose is a set of penal rules. . .designed to ensure. . .a more efficient means of repression” (CJ, Page 40) (sic). Just google “how many Brits have been wrongly arrested by EU police”.
Then we have the EU Arrest Warrant, where a national judicial authority, such as a court or police force can issue an EAW to get a suspect extradited. There are examples of our own police forces “misusing” this mechanism for justice, as in the Ashya King case. When the Kings sought treatment abroad for their five-year old son’s brain tumour, they were subject to an EAW, then jailed in a Spanish cell, leaving Ashya alone in a Malaga hospital. All because they didn’t fill in the right forms at Southampton hospital.
Although our own judicial system is also often open to question, Corpus Juris seems like jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
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