Agree with estebangc's comment. Where does the "America(n)" comment come from? One person in post number 10 mentions it by saying they are travelling from Europe to there (maybe doing a m/c trip?), otherwise no mention. Definitely an odd comment.

My opinion on the topic: The people get the government they deserve. Being British I'm proud to say I didn't vote Thatcher (start of the Greed is Good Britain era) in 79 pp (too young) and not Blair (son of Thatcher) in 97 pp. So I can sleep with a clear conscience.

What have I done to stop the rot? Nothing. So I should really stop complaining about the situation. Hang on, I did once boycott an event where the (now disgraced) CEO of HBOS bank was the guest speaker. Probably too little too late.

cheers
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Chris, it was never my intent to piss anyone off. I get easily fired up when politics gets whipped out. There is another thread tittled "the world according to America" or some such that is so far left I couldn't read it with my right eye open.

It seems to me that a solution should be presented, not just a problem

IMO, nobody is p!ssed off by anyone else on his forum.

A solution to the problem: Repatriate all the w(b)ankers' money, line them and their crooked politician friends (after first stealing all their stolen money back from them) on the edge of a cliff and... (Fill in your own ending).

With ref to the World according to... map thread: If you were able to have both eyes open when you read the words written, you'd see clearly what was meant by the thread.

Off to ride a bike.

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Couldn't agree more, I have always said governments are just a reflect of the population, we get what we deserve (quite often for any regime, not only democracies). However... I start to change that view, since those powerful guys seem to be narrowing my options more and more. It's like: what do you prefer for lunch, shit or excrements? That's all? Yeah, that's all (two adequate candidates chosen by others). Add manipulating the public opinion so I think I am actually deciding (a shit): is it still valid "the candidate supported by The Sun wins the elections" after the News of the World Scandal? Is there really a decision left to us?

Very interesting your visit to the Eastern block before the fall. I would have loved to see it by myself... (I was 13 when the wall).

Anyway, I may be undeniably stupid in many fields, but I hope I didn't not come from planet Utopia in a space shuttle. Of course there are ambitious and greedy people (did I say that I wanted your bicycle?), as there are serial killers, nobody tried to deny that. The point I clumsily tried to raise was:

is the system being redesigned so that those bastards take (de facto) over all in here? Is it just because of that that the richer get muuuuch richer, the middle class dissappears in many countries (and gets progressively reduced in ours) and the poorers get much poorer and miserable?

Since there is no more counterbalance (call it Communists), is the capitalist race going just way too far and we live a fake democracy too much controlled by those guys? I can't see any leader who deserves that title, they all look to me more and more like a marionette. I see people loosing jobs and more "dancing with the stars" on TV to keep us busy. Was it called alienation?

If I am in a dictatorship and they rob all the richness and there is censorship, well, that's it, a dictatorship. But if I am (supposedly) in the most advanced democracies, WTF a democracy is that????

Well, if you really want to know who runs the world, a group of Swiss researchers have worked it out -

Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

The link will probably only work for a few days so if you're into this sort of stuff you probably need to get over there quickly.

My (very jaded) view of all politicians: Same shit, different arse. I distrust the moral fibre of all politicians.

I read somewhere that "Politics is like Hollywood for ugly people". (No anti-American sentiment intended. Please substitute other movie making areas of the world if this reference offends ). This is certainly true for the late Robin Cook or the slightly less late John Prescott, who even managed to find women to have affairs with.

It's lunchtiime and I'm here at a McD francise using their free wifi. I feel the need to go buy a Big Mac to eat, or I could just throw it straight down the bog, without letting it pass through my body first.

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Eat when you are hungry, scratch when you are itchy, uck when you are orny, sleep when you are tired, ride when you feel like it....if you are able to do this count your blessings and don't let the paranoia get to you......half of the stuff we are scared of actually doesn't happen at all! Oh yeah...be kind to one another, I almost forgot.
Rob

#SIGH#

Now we're all predictors of the future!!!
The tide comes in and it goes out. Always has done and always will do.
The sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening. Always has done and always will do.
Geese fly south. Always have done and always will do.
People are born and then they die. Always have done and always will do.

The world's economy has zigs and then it has zags. Yip you've guessed it.....always has done and always will do.

I'm starting to believe there are professional scaremongers in the world. Hang on a mo.....they're called politicians