Ummm {stelloa} as they say in manchester

Steve

Before getting any free drinks in HU Bar (hope free), I've a question worldwide.

Depending on too many years of adventure travelling and bikers club activity experiences;

I've reached an opinion which is:
1-Enduro riders are the most and best friendly bikers among all met in Turkey.
2-Racers are much less friendly and choppers are worst. In some touristic places chopper riders are not accepted to stay.

Is this opinion and outlook the same in your country too?

Cheers now for many many more years for HU.

Wish you all the best
zeki.

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Glad to be back to such a brilliant site, Thanks Grant for re-setting my password and email mess up, :-) Also thanks to those who've been a great help in the past.
regards

I don't think you are too far off but I think that there are some pretty understandable causes for the effect that you point out. IMHO
Here is my take on it:
Most 12 year old kids don't dream of riding the kind of bikes that most of us ride or the rides we choose to go on. If you are 12 you dream of riding a dirt bike at full speed across the Baja winning the cup and the large chested blonde showering you with champagne at the podium.

Some of them dream of being a bad biker dude and riding a hog across country with the same blonde on the back of the bike. Stopping nightly for a drink and knocking the hell out of anyone that looks at her.

Most of us fulfill some part of this dream and move on in life. Others just never get over it. I liken it to the 50 year old that still is more than a little competitive in a "friendly" game of football.

The idea of leaving society behind (Even if for the weekend) and riding one of "our" kind of bikes to the ends of the earth and rough camping doesn't appeal to as many of those guys as the other style of riding does. Let's face it when you and one or two other guys are riding across the plains of say Kazakhstan there aren't a great deal of people to show off to. I just don't think those guys would be interested in eating goat meat on a dirt floor in a village of 16 people. Personally I would jump at the opportunity but I am as daft as all the rest of you.
Hope to make it to Turkey soon. -Paul

I have thought for many years that there may be other guys like me around the globe. I like to ride enduro and like to travel around the globe. The problem is that I really don't have the time or the money to just stop working for a year and ride. There are other guys that I ride with that are in the same boat. The thing is that it wouldn't be impossible for us to have a second bike (I have more than a few extras) that we could maintain and let visitors ride. By the same token, we have enough vacation and money that taking a few weeks per year and flying to places wouldn't be out of reach either. There must be guys just like us all over the globe...right? It would seem to me that should be able to work out some sort of exchange system. Here is an example of what I am thinking: We schedule an event here locally on a given period that spans 10 days from Friday through Monday. The event is hosted by 2 teams of 2 guys. The hosts will pick up the guests or arrange for pick up of the guests at the airport and transport them to a decent but inexpensive hotel near the hosts. The hosts would provide a decent mechanically sound enduro for the guests to ride during their 10 day stay. (Each of the 4 hosts would provide their spare bike to one guest) The guests would pay for their own plane flight, food, gas, and 1/4 of the hotel cost. The first team would spend Saturday, Sunday, and Monday riding with the guests, showing them the best of the enduro world that they know in their area. Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday the guests would be free to see the sites of the area without the hosts escorting them around the area. (They would also not use the hosts bikes during this time) Friday, Saturday, and Sunday the second team would show the guests their favorite rides in the area and take their turn at entertaining. On Monday the hosts would provide transport back to the airport for the guests.
This is just an example of idea. There would be many details to be worked out. The guests would, of course, return the favor and do the same for the hosts in their area at a later time. The hardest part would be getting it started. What do you all think? (I shared this idea with a few of my friends and they pretty much think I am crazy)

Well, 2 weeks and no replies of any kind. I guess I should be happy I wasn't called names and insulted like on ADV.
Well then the answer must be no one is intersted. At least I know. Cheers!

Crikey I'm as dry as a Pomie's towel, who's shout is it ?

The Bar is just ......... perfect! Keep up the excellent work Grant.

i'l have one of these

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anyone else?

TOO HARD! Great idea, no way it can happen - too many things to make work right. The difficulty of something like this is exponentially harder for every person you add! What does work is just trading bikes with one person.

That's why we created the Bike Swap or Rent forum! You COULD use it for a group if you were a glutton for punishment....

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Thanks Grant, that is truly brilliant! I will be perusing through that section directly after posting this. Awesome!

Probably shouldn't talk politics at the bar but............

Bill was trying to comfort Hilary after her defeat. Don't worry about it honey, Nelson Mandela had to do 27 years hard labor before he got voted in

Seeing as Dave Drwinite is still in the bar ( how u doin ?) he must be pretty thirsty if no ones bought him a schooner! My shout.

I couldn't think of a suitable place to put this and there are many friends who I ought to contact personally, but time is not my best friend at the moment. So I thought a quick announcement in the bar would get to everyone ( eventually).

Just to let you know that I will be moving from the Limousin region of France after 12 years, at the end of next week. I am a community, but have now removed my current details from the site temporarily. They will re-appear around Xmas time. I'm moving 600kms up country to the north west corner of Brittany in the Cotes D'Armor. I will be less than 1.5hrs from the Channel ports of Roscoff & St Malo; and about 2 hrs from Caen ( Ouistreham) and Cherbourg. Any travellers doing a channel hop either way and who may need a contact, then don't hesitate to get in touch through the Communities (contact) section.

Hope you are all having a good time wherever you are and what ever you are doing.

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Welcome to Cotes d'Armor Pongo when you arrive. There's quite an active biking community in the area. I'm near Rostrenen when I'm here.

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Won't be far from you Mustapha.....! about 20kms NE near Lanrivain.

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We visit Lanrivain regularly. Some friends of ours there run a motorcycle based gite business.

Rural Brittany Holiday Home Page
The local bar/restaurant run by Jerome and Virginie is also a popular destination for us.

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2O Mins walk! Small world.

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