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Maybe, but I bet not by much..... it's usually the accommodation that's a killer....
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I wish, hold all bets, a couple of facts!
Average house rental, $600 Per Week which will get you a 3 br dog box, in a great suburb, not! Thankfully Im not in that boat. Power and water up by a whopping 40% so far this year! That's about $800 a quarter just for minimal sparks no water! $5 for an avocado $8 for a lettuce WTF? $762 to rego my bike for a year! Every single item is trucked in thousands of miles and its dear as poison. Seriously mate, it's well out of hand and sadly getting worse by the minute!
Australia they say is the lucky country, I recon were lucky KY was invented!
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Isn't that cost of living index and some comments here saying any country is expensive is only from the point of view of those living and earning there?
Plenty of Brits have moved to Spain because of the climate and cheaper housing only to find the law gets re-interpreted and suddenly their life savings sunk into their retirement home have been taken away 
Some of my family have moved to SE France to retire. One hard working couple sold their Dagenham terrace 2up2down for about £160,000 and bought a lovely rural cottage for €52,000. The others bought a 300yr old bakery in a quiet small village for about €80,000 and are doing it up, leaving a big wedge just from selling their UK house let alone pensions. Ace healthcare, space, empty roads, nice 
I looked into moving to NZ and Canada a while back but decided the UK was better. I like the footpaths Miles and miles that you can explore all sorts of history
Maybe today the UK is getting a little too full though, so somewhere warmer in the future? 
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Well. Whatever you do. Don´t move to Norway. Must be one of the most expensive countries on the planet. 
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Yeah that does sound pretty pricey - I take it all back! But presumably pay there is higher to compensate for the higher cost of living? - or not?
But if the pay is higher, of course you are better off spending in a cheaper area.....
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Yes Doc there are much cheaper areas in the southern states some 3000 K's from here. No the average wage does not make up the difference. I have lived in this country for 51 years and in Darwin for 45 of those. I love it here despite my grumblings, sun, bush, fish, space, wildlife, family & friends ect. When I move and it's all on the market, I would prefer to move further afield, and keep moving, a couple of weeks / months here and there, to coin a phrase, A rolling stone .......
Hellboy, Norway, beautiful country (in summer) DAMN EXPENSIVE!
Griz, Moving to the south of France, Magnifique, mon ami!
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While a long way from Darwin and not having the same types of costs associated with transport I am finding in Melbourne, while earning more than I ever have, I am able to do far less with my money than in say the 80"s and 90"s and early 2000's when I went overseas frequently, ate out and went drinking out a lot and still saved money.
Housing prices here are ridiculous, power bills going through the roof, food going up BUT all the same first world problems and its still a bloody great city to live in.
I have a mate, renting in Sydney for the last 10 years with his wife, both earning a decent wage struggling to afford to buy something that is not 60-90 minutes commute from the city. They figure their best bet was to retire in France as well. Just bought a nice house in a village not far from a major city at less than 1/3 of what they would have spent on a cheapish 2 bedroom apartment in Sydney.
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I am finding in Melbourne, while earning more than I ever have, I am able to do far less with my money.
I have a mate, renting in Sydney for the last 10 years with his wife, both earning a decent wage struggling to afford to buy. They figure their best bet was to retire in France as well. Just bought a nice house in a village not far from a major city at less than 1/3 of what they would have spent on a cheapish 2 bedroom apartment in Sydney.
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My point exactly. And it's not the first time France has been mentioned, stunning architecture, landscape, people and only in France does one experience dining in the true sense of the word, simply awesome food. I do love my country although retiring here is just too expensive and therefore restrictive. I figure while the prices are high, get out, reinvest here or elsewhere and see the world in detail. Who knows miss right might turn up and rearrange the whole apple cart!
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Perhaps some of the former Soviet Union (FSU) countries are of interest? For example, TonyP moved to Moscow Russia. I know that when I visited there, I got a lot of bang for my buck($). I did notice that housing was expensive in the big cities, much better out in the smaller places.
FWIW, USA is a very difficult place to be poor and live here. Tony has also said (in a roundabout way) that Russia is a free-er country than UK. Whatever, different perceptions from different folks. I'd like to be in (insert country of choice) for an extended visit to see if I could manage all the little differences.
As an example, McCrankpin posted photos of deer in the snow. I have deer, elk, rabbits, partridge, pheasants, and whatnot within 2 meters of my door. Of course, I did ask one deer in for a nice warm place, er, after removing his hat and coat... I'd miss that for sure.
Unfortunately, there is no silver lined cloud for us out there...
YMMV
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It's a nice thought. One I have. But knowing the Government of the day. Eith this one or the next one down the line. What's my pension going to be like if I move over sea. As next to all of the party's in power look at pension's as a golden egg to plunder when ever they can. I've always liked Spain. But I also like the NHS in this country. A couple of health problems abroad could clear me out of my saving's.
I like the weather in Spain. The open road's, and your money go's a bit further than in the UK. So think about it. A soft landing is built in me. I'm not going to make the jump unless my lotto number's come up.
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I've always been something of a "lone wolf", so I don't have much need to stay in my home country (Canada) - a visit back maybe once every year or two will be plenty once I retire.
In 2021, I can start collecting a "reduced pension" of about $2000/month. Now, in Canada, that's enough to survive but not to thrive. I'd be renting a basement suite or small apartment, and be just able to afford necessities: forget owning a motorcycle or having money to travel overseas. If I stay in Canada, I realistically need to work at least 5 more years (if not more) just to have a moderate standard of living.
However...
I lived in Mexico from 2004 to 2007, and lived comfortably on just $600 or so per month. Even factoring in inflation and such, I suspect that if I retire at age 55 in Mexico I'll be able to live very well on $2000/month.
The rest of Latin America is generally (with some exceptions) cheaper than Mexico. If I find that prices start to creep up too high for my liking, I can always move further south.
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I wish, hold all bets, a couple of facts!
Average house rental, $600 Per Week which will get you a 3 br dog box, in a great suburb, not! Thankfully Im not in that boat. Power and water up by a whopping 40% so far this year! That's about $800 a quarter just for minimal sparks no water! $5 for an avocado $8 for a lettuce WTF? $762 to rego my bike for a year! Every single item is trucked in thousands of miles and its dear as poison. Seriously mate, it's well out of hand and sadly getting worse by the minute!
Australia they say is the lucky country, I recon were lucky KY was invented!
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Yeah that does sound pretty pricey - I take it all back! But presumably pay there is higher to compensate for the higher cost of living? - or not?
But if the pay is higher, of course you are better off spending in a cheaper area.....
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