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Yeah, these "facts" don't really stack up for me.

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Fact No1: Overlanders love outdoors.
I love outdoors occasionally. Sure, I enjoy the ability to pitch my tent in a scenic spot and watch the sun set with a and a campfire. I also really enjoy coming into a new city, finding a language exchange evening on meetup.com or couchsurfing, and meeting a dozen young locals who are specifically there to talk to foreigners. I also enjoy hanging out in the common room of a hostel, hearing others' travel tales and telling my own - and the fact that I'm on a bike and having a very different experience from the majority of backpackers there, only makes me more likely to get a free .

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Fact No2: Overlanders have invested on camping equipment & travel gear.
Sure - but as a motorcycle traveler, the gear I've invested in is the stuff that's acceptably comfortable/waterproof, but still packs down small enough. Space on the bike is at a premium and that's where I will invest money. This means that unpacking the camp gear and setting it up, then breaking it down, is annoying. If there's a low-effort, low-cost alternative available, I'd rather leave it packed.

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Fact No3: Design, invest and run a campsite is not a big deal.
Compared to what? A three-star hotel? The campsite owner has invested into buying a piece of land that's convenient for road access, but is also scenic; instead of turning it into condos, they invested in bringing in electricity hookups, boilers, probably at least a few wooden cabins, and all of that requires maintenance. Certainly no less maintenance than somebody renting out a spare room in their house on AirBNB, where the incremental cost is just an extra load for the washing machine for the bedlinen.

The CAPEX of setting up a campsite might be smaller than that of building a hotel, but the OPEX won't necessarily be smaller, especially because labor costs are a massive factor. And a campsite is only making revenue in the high season!

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Plus, the vast majority of overlanders travel in self-contained vehicles
You know you're on a mostly-motorcycle board, right?

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Fact No4: Overlanders like to live with less.
Also quite reductionist. Overlanders like the experience of travel, and the ability to easily find the company of like-minded travelers. A campsite or hostel can be a better place to find such company than a five-star hotel, but if I could afford a private room with my own shower every night, I would take that over a tent without hesitation, and I think most people would as well.

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5 EUR (or 6 USD) per person per night is a fair deal for the overlander and the campsite owner for the reasons & experiences that mentioned above and this should be the universal standard all around the world!
If you think there is a universal standard of prices to be had between Mexico and Norway, you are crazy.
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