There is quite a bit of hysteria in the pub bar tonight.

Fortunately, for those who live in India, China and Russia, their governments have pretty much said that they will be ignoring the mass climate alarm of western "civilisation".
Didn't Pres Obama say something similar before the non-binding conference in Paris?

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You are not really reading anything I post up, are you?

You lost me when you mentioned you rode your Ninja sport bike on an ISDE qualifier. Having actually RIDDEN an ISDE qualifier ... and having owned 5 Ninjas ... :help smilie: Well, not much changed from there.

(I notice you didn't deny anything I said regards your sources for info! Fox news ... and of course Jo Momma/Church & State on ADV Rider!)

this has what to do with the topic at hand?
People who own stacks of bikes impress me not in the slightest, I would state why but why bother?

Gee,ice discus[/quote] yea, the articles I posted up clearly came from faux news, you know the same company which posts skeptical science, live science, Forbes, bloomberg as well as the university studies I reference.
as I mentioned to another member in here earlier, you would do well to read something other than opinion nonsense. Perhaps you could try reading some actual studies yourself? It goes miles for having an adult conversation, and is far more pleasant than talking to chicken little.

Nature is our kindest friend and best critic in experimental science if we only allow her intimations to fall unbiased on our minds. Michael Faraday, 1791 – 1867

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If governments collapse and the world goes to hell I would probably not travel by bike internationally anymore. Not saying it could not be done but it would not appeal to me. Travelling then would be more expedition style, light or heavy. If I "had to", I would go light and try to fit into the starving masses. Bad times for GS owners I guess.

Hmmmm ..... maybe you guys would find me scavenging the streets of Germany, riding my old GS500, toting leather jacket, machete and a sawn off shotgun ... plus my personal weed plantation right in my living room ...

Hey SOW,

if you want to come on over to the Old Continent, I will give you a tour of the refugee camps in my AO. Our small town of 5000 currently houses 140 "refugees", with a new building for 90 persons in the works. Plus another 60 persons will be housed in an industrial building. Next small town: 120 fortuneseekers/refugees housed in two heated tents. The town I am working in currently houses about 300 persons and the list goes on and on.

I was told buying weed has gotten considerably easier since the Gambians arrived on the scene. But that must be a lie. They probably just like hanging out at the local schools to socialize ... but being black they certainly stick out like a sore thumb.

Germanys biggest problem is not the migrant issue. We have a huge problem with Angela Merkel and her ilk.

Wow? A wopping 140? how on earth do you cope?
it must be terribly stressful to have to look out your window and see people living in a "Camp" who lost everything after it was blown to shit.
Which is?

Wow, really surprised at this thread!

Predator guy, trust me, you can get cabin fever on any coast. Here's my place that I leave every year. This isn't me merely someone who visited. Everyone thinks they want to stay for WEEKS or MONTHS, but 3-4 days is average, all people can handle.

Regardless of whether there is climate change or not, the bigger problem imo is we've ****ed up big time. Anyone who's traveled over the decades can see huge differences all over the world. We suck! Garbage everywhere, and not just in 'other' countries. Rwanda banned plastic bags a few years ago. The WHOLE COUNTRY. America? Europe? Adventure travelers lives have already been affected. Hasten the day we ride an electric bike that feels WILD.
(rant over)

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The point was that I was telling you that fortune seekers / "refugees" are everywhere to be seen.

They mostly did lose everything in the sense that they sold everything to pay people smugglers to bring them into the EU, especially after Angela opened the door into Germany. Against current law, BTW.

If it is of interest to you, Iraqi migrants are already flying back by the hundreds every day because Germany did not meet their expectations.

Why chancelorette Merkel is currently the most despised of woman in Germany you can find out yourself.

Hey Lorraine,

why not consider an electric moped? In ten years unpaved roads will be sparse anyhow.

Is that what you call people who have lost everything, fortune seekers? LOL

That is what anyone with the IQ above cannon fodder would do, try to find safety in a country which has an economy. You know kind of like all those migrants who left Europe, trying to escape the endless war and poverty for America
You mean because you treated them so Paltry they realized their only chance at a future was going back, or is it because Iraq has one of the worlds fastest growing economies?


Might want to start reading some legitimate news sources and put down Mien Kampf, shame to see the rise of the Riech all over again.

I guess if the US had a crystal ball, they would not have rebuilt a society that had did so much evil, seeing as though the future looked to repeat.
Your welcome BTW

Wow, that is one big leap of imagination.

I have read Pete3's posts in here more or less since he came to the forum.
Never has he come across in the manner that you imagine.
Quite the contrary actually; much as other German nationals, he loves his country and has posted ride reports to that effect with some excellent photographs and description of his own locality along the way.

Even over the past 48 hours, Frau M has changed her tune mightily, no doubt because she is losing support in Germany.
Time will tell; there are elections coming and the German government is a coalition.

Certainly, there are immense differerences between refugees, migrants, asylum seekers and such terminologies.
There is a strong argument that any nation that allows the best qualiifed and educated of another nation to move on denudes the latter of virtually any possibility of rebuilding itself.
For example, the UK health service doesn't educate and train enough of it's own needs and so it poaches people from just about the whole of the rest of the world.

In addition, the arrival of some 1 Mn immigrants into a single country over such a short period of time, and continuing, is unprecedented.
Again, time will tell how this develops; no one has a clue at present.

ps
i before e doesn't work in the German language.

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Hey Shrek and Warden, why don´t you guys relax and take a dump before you start posting on the HUBB? It would improve the quality of your contributions by a far margin.

Call me a Nazi, I don´t give a rat´s a**. You know nothing about me and obviously not one bit about contemporary Germany, too. I might come across as harsh and I agree. I have a fair imagination of what lies ahead for my children and their offspring.

Immigration of non-Europeans has not been a success story in this country, must be because old Adolf is still controlling our minds from this base on the moon. Oh wait, the way I see it, it has not been a success story in other European countries, either.

Hey, that´s probably not PC to say! Hey, and guess what? I freaking don´t care!

Now if you would please excuse me. My feed are itching, must go goose stepping for a while.

Oh and SOW, the German guilt thing is getting really old. If you want to insult me, why don´t you come up with something innovative?

You might want to wind your neck in a little....................

I liked SOW's post because the current anti immigrant hysteria fuelled by the media is giving strength to the ultra right wing movement across the globe and that is not a good thing for anyone.

You posted moaning about 140 immigrant in you locality, well so what? these people are facing hardships worse than you or me have ever experienced and hopefully will never experience in our lifetimes.