Originally Posted by mollydog

Pure ignorance. You're living in a fool's paradise. Look at the science, do some reading ... and check out the history. Nothing to worry about?
What? Me Worry?

We knew this was coming back in 1977 when I landed in a Twin Otter on a Tabular ice berg the size of New Hampshire. (1/3 size of UK?) Also the year they discovered a hole in the Ozone among other things we did that year.

I supported Glaciologists (and many other scientists from many disciplines) in Antarctic from '76 to '79. They knew little back then ... but have learned a whole lot more since. The rapid changes that are now well documented are unprecedented ... and show things that normally would take thousands (or ten's of thousands) of years to occur are happening all the time.
And that's a fact.

I remember interviewing a 89 year old Fisherman in Peru' in 1975.
This back when the first "El Nino" was happening. This old guy said he'd never seen anything like it ... and nothing similar had happened during his or his Fathers' lifetime (Father lived into his 80's).

More recently in Peru', they've had massive Fish die offs no one can explain. Tens of millions of dead Fish. Explain please.

So nearly 200 years (a spec in geologic time) of personal experience from some modest fisherfolk of Peru'. What does it mean?
These guys spend their life at sea in small boats. The changes the old man saw he could not believe nor explain. He could only cry.

At the time I had no idea what climate change or global warming was, but we sure as Hell could see something was up and knew this old guy was not making any of this up.

Since then much has been uncovered, studied and proven. 90% of serious, credentialed scientists believe Climate Change is real ... and have PROOF. What's your proof? The Bible?

Are ALL these scientists being "paid off"? Are they Commie Rats? And why are the oil companies trying so hard (and spending millions) to shut them up! (but can't!)

It's real folks. Get used to it. This is not some Hippy conspiracy. But back to the question ... how will you get on your bike and ride once the world begins to fall into chaos? Govts. collapse, infrastructure fails and there is no one around to
"Fix things"?

Originally Posted by tremens

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It's very easy to manipulate uneducated people and the lowering of public education standards in recent years is not a coincidence. That should be alarming, not climate change.

Originally Posted by oldbmw

I don't worry about it for I have realised it is all self regulating.
Take fishing for instance, bigger and bigger boats taking bigger and bigger catches. They play around with quotas, but in the end it does not matter at all. One day a fishing boat will take the last big shoal of its target fish and there will be no more. The fishermen will go broke, the boat scrapped and in a hundred years or so the fish will start to return.

Same with climate. All hoo ha about emissions, never a word about all the trees we have lost. Each one a little solar powered factory removing carbon and other pollutants,(about two tons a year each), freeing pure oxygen for us to breathe and storing and controlling the water that now floods freely. Eventually the world will become uninhabitable thus removing the root cause of the problem. It will recover.

Originally Posted by plainshorse

Read this interview with James Lovelock:

James Lovelock: 'enjoy life while you can: in 20 years global warming will hit the fan' | Environment | The Guardian

there is not much more to be said really. Although I don't agree with his belief that nuclear power will help us.

The problem, IMHO is the Earth is grossly over populated with people and the consequential effect is climate change and mass extinction of other species. The change is taking place now and so it will continue.

As for independent travel by motorcycle / car etc. I think that has a limited future. So enjoy it while you can.

Originally Posted by TheWarden

Piers Corbyn is very likely getting more media attention due to his brother becoming Labour Leader! heaven forbid politics come into it :Lol:

Here we have "Scientist" who refuses to publish the methodology of his forecasts for independent review. Appeared on Channel 4's The Great Climate Change Swindle as Dr Piers Corbyn despite not actually holding any doctorate.

Peer Review of his forecasts concluded

"The results provide little evidence to dismiss the observed success rates as being attributable to mere chance or good fortune"

And the final stunner he has been funded by the oil industry to counter climate change science. Not like there's an agenda behind the oil industries funding is there!

Originally Posted by Walkabout

Hans Rosling is the docs name and the video is called something like "Don't panic" (he is an optimist).

ps
His 1 hour vid is named Don't panic and it can be seen via various outlets (thanks internet!).
Gapminder is one source of the vid which also tends to bring up reference to the short talks produced under the moniker "TED" - they can also be of interest.

Originally Posted by Dutchgit

Thanks for that. I found it rather an eye opener. It's a bit lengthy but very well explained and I'd advise any one a look at that.

Don’t Panic – The Facts About Population

Originally Posted by eurasiaoverland

- People have been predicting a 'population bomb' since at least the 1960s, mass famines, armageddon etc etc but so far it has yet to come to light. Almost everywhere in the world people are living healthier, longer lives now than ever before.