I have been thinking that climate change will influence the world in general and so will have an influence on adventurers as well.
But new ways will be found and new ideas will be forthcoming because the human race is an adapting one.

there is no climate change, what we observe is climate shift. Normal thing,
happened many times in history of Earth. Nothing to worry about.

+1.

Would you buy a second hand/owner vehicle from the likes of Al Gore?
Thought not.

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Dave

Agree with the climate shifting (i thought a shift was a change as well?)
Also agree with it happening before but nothing to worry about ? Only if you happen to live anything over 25 meters above sea level and you hope to last a good number of years. If the sea levels are rising this will have a serious impact on global weather patterns. The timescale in which that happens remains to be seen.

Yes, Man Made Emissions are such a threat the Western Countries have taken regulated manufacturing and sent it to Unregulated China.

If you ever read the Bible you have all the answers you need as to what is going on, no its nothing mythical, nothing godlike, merely the higher powers (Government, or whomever pulls the strings) using the same biblical stratagy.
There will BE FLOODS< THERE WILL BE FIRES, THERE WILL BE FAMINE, EARTHQUAKES! And all the other crap that happens all the time.
Now they rolled into "Science' you know, the same science that cannot seem to tell you what tomorrows weather is actually gonna do.

Anyhow, just a joke. Nothing to worry about, we are leaving a little ice age and lots of strange things are happening we do not understand. It is important to understand that Modern Science, is actually extremely young. So when they say "The worst storm in history" rack that up to the worst storm in 80 years or some such nonsense. Which is not always the case.
Much of the US worst events have already happened Decades ago.

Travel, enjoy and worry not about that of which you have no control, other than turning off the TV fear mongers trying to control you.

For you it will Mouldydog! You should stay at home, stay off the net, turn all your power off, if you must go out ride a pushbike!

Pure ignorance. You're living in a fool's paradise. Look at the science, do some reading ... and check out the history. Nothing to worry about?
What? Me Worry?

We knew this was coming back in 1977 when I landed in a Twin Otter on a Tabular ice berg the size of New Hampshire. (1/3 size of UK?) Also the year they discovered a hole in the Ozone among other things we did that year.

I supported Glaciologists (and many other scientists from many disciplines) in Antarctic from '76 to '79. They knew little back then ... but have learned a whole lot more since. The rapid changes that are now well documented are unprecedented ... and show things that normally would take thousands (or ten's of thousands) of years to occur are happening all the time.
And that's a fact.

I remember interviewing a 89 year old Fisherman in Peru' in 1975.
This back when the first "El Nino" was happening. This old guy said he'd never seen anything like it ... and nothing similar had happened during his or his Fathers' lifetime (Father lived into his 80's).

More recently in Peru', they've had massive Fish die offs no one can explain. Tens of millions of dead Fish. Explain please.

So nearly 200 years (a spec in geologic time) of personal experience from some modest fisherfolk of Peru'. What does it mean?
These guys spend their life at sea in small boats. The changes the old man saw he could not believe nor explain. He could only cry.

At the time I had no idea what climate change or global warming was, but we sure as Hell could see something was up and knew this old guy was not making any of this up.

Since then much has been uncovered, studied and proven. 90% of serious, credentialed scientists believe Climate Change is real ... and have PROOF. What's your proof? The Bible?

Are ALL these scientists being "paid off"? Are they Commie Rats? And why are the oil companies trying so hard (and spending millions) to shut them up! (but can't!)

It's real folks. Get used to it. This is not some Hippy conspiracy. But back to the question ... how will you get on your bike and ride once the world begins to fall into chaos? Govts. collapse, infrastructure fails and there is no one around to
"Fix things"?

Scientists need money my dear, the money is in being an Alarmist, actually it usually is.


Not sure why you have to belittle other members, cant you just sit down and open your mind?

In the 1930's the Germans realised their standard of living could not be sustained given that their agricultural output was maxed out and they were running out of people to sell basic manufactured goods to. A nasty little man and a few dodgy scientists offered a solution that involved the biggest war ever. The rebuild made the cake bigger but sliced it a bit more evenly, hence our grand parents could travel more freely.

Today we have massive populations who aren't going to live at a tenth of US standards, yet the planet is no bigger. Efficiency solutions may come, but you can expect a few fast and easy solutions involving simply grabbing a bomb and moving to where they have air conditioning in the mean time.

How we live and travel now is as unsustainable as century old dreams of treking across Africa with teams of natives to carry your gramophone, dinner service and wine cellar. If we are lucky there will be space for us all on the bus tours, if not we may be going fully funded but all dressed in khaki.

Wishful thinking by air conditioning owners will not change the simple sum of world GDP divided by world population.
Andy

it's amazing how naive people are believing in every "scientific" study published
not even questioning who funded it

p.s.
It's very easy to manipulate uneducated people and the lowering of public education standards in recent years is not a coincidence. That should be alarming, not climate change.

I hardly touched on this aspect in my last post but it is far more troubling than the man made myths put about by governments, spin doctors, PR gurus, advertising agencies, NGOs with vested interests and the main stream media including the TV channels.

It also needs to be recognised that the likes of the BBC news, including the world news output, is also complicit in the dumbing down of the information provided to populations.

Knowledge, real knowledge, is power; so don't let the plebiscite get too close to it!

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I don't worry about it for I have realised it is all self regulating.
Take fishing for instance, bigger and bigger boats taking bigger and bigger catches. They play around with quotas, but in the end it does not matter at all. One day a fishing boat will take the last big shoal of its target fish and there will be no more. The fishermen will go broke, the boat scrapped and in a hundred years or so the fish will start to return.

Same with climate. All hoo ha about emissions, never a word about all the trees we have lost. Each one a little solar powered factory removing carbon and other pollutants,(about two tons a year each), freeing pure oxygen for us to breathe and storing and controlling the water that now floods freely. Eventually the world will become uninhabitable thus removing the root cause of the problem. It will recover.

Its alarming how many millions have been suckered into the complete fiction of religion over the millennia or do you believe that religion is fact because it wasn't funded by a Government?

Climate Change is well established scientific fact, it's the extent of mans influence on the natural process that is still an emerging science.

OldBMW is spot on, the planet will eventually recover with or without us here to see it

(Good to see the HuBB Pub is started the New Year at a low point)

It, the solution, was influenced by Californian policies of the day apparently - I didn't know that, until now.
The misuse of Malthus | Matt Ridley

I was aware that USA sourced state-of-the-art-of-the-day programming machines (supplied by IBM IIRC) were used to coordinate the Nazi eugenic policy.
Nothing gets in the way of business.

? Possibly not.


ps
Read on in that blog and there is passing reference to UN ideology right up to the present day.

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I do believe that climate change is man influenced. Even if you do not I think this is the case. I think most of us can agree the climate is changing, weather patterns are changing and seem to be getting more extreme.

Also as a species how many of us can this world support? That is in a way that is acceptable to the many. After the world wars the difference between the have's and the have not's was far smaller, perhaps because of the guilt of the ruling elites to the many for their sacrifices? Now these memories ere fading and things are going backwards.

The top 1% now own 50% of everything! Also the the Population is getting bigger, much bigger and world resource is finite! So it seems a reasonable assumption that the vast majority will have to make to with less?

Could and should we manage our populations?

How can we decide what a fair system is to do this? Let a lone manage and enforce it?

I want to travel (by land) as I see a lot more of this world, rather than my air as I only ever get to experience the world in small bubbles about my landing points, never really joined up! Traveling more slowly on a bike is very efficient especially if it is not that bigger one! But the way things are going I see things sadly getting more polarised and therefore harder for us to explore the planet!

We will still be able to do it but the risks and obstacles will be more. I hope and believe it is still worth it though!