As the obvious affects of world wide climate change continue to worsen, how will travelers cope?

With possible massive forced migration, food and water shortages and general unstable govts., how will a motorcycle traveler deal with such things?

Many think "Climate Changes" will only mean higher temps. But science (and reality) now tell us it's Everything that is affected: Record high temps world wide, but Colder temps as well.

Higher winds, longer, more severe droughts followed by record setting floods. More Hurricanes/Tornadoes than ever before and in places that never have had them.

The daily news tells the story best. We see it everywhere round the world from Antarctica to India.

Can motorcycle folk survive and tread there way through? How much more dangerous will MC travel become? Where can we go that might be "safe"?
How much time have we got?

Do we care? Are we just going to ride the Bomb down to oblivion like Slim Picken's did in Dr. Strangelove? (Cowboy Slim "rides" an A-bomb down from his B-52 ... and starts the end of the world)

Recent topics here attempt to describe "Adventure travel". Seems to me as Climate Change truly takes hold travel may become an impossible adventure.

I think you're being rather dramatic, and looking at it as if the climate is suddenly going to 'change'. It's a continuous process.

Maybe think of the number of motorcycle travellers who are affected by unusually strong hurricanes or typhoons, tornadoes, tidal waves, floods etc etc and multiply it by some factor. I don't think it's going to make much difference.

The machinations of world politics are far more likely to affect the plans of travellers, just as they have done for years. My parents generation could safely drive all over the Sahara, but had no real chance to visit much of the Soviet Union for example.

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I have been thinking that climate change will influence the world in general and so will have an influence on adventurers as well.
But new ways will be found and new ideas will be forthcoming because the human race is an adapting one.

there is no climate change, what we observe is climate shift. Normal thing,
happened many times in history of Earth. Nothing to worry about.

+1.

Would you buy a second hand/owner vehicle from the likes of Al Gore?
Thought not.

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Agree with the climate shifting (i thought a shift was a change as well?)
Also agree with it happening before but nothing to worry about ? Only if you happen to live anything over 25 meters above sea level and you hope to last a good number of years. If the sea levels are rising this will have a serious impact on global weather patterns. The timescale in which that happens remains to be seen.

Pure ignorance. You're living in a fool's paradise. Look at the science, do some reading ... and check out the history. Nothing to worry about?
What? Me Worry?

We knew this was coming back in 1977 when I landed in a Twin Otter on a Tabular ice berg the size of New Hampshire. (1/3 size of UK?) Also the year they discovered a hole in the Ozone among other things we did that year.

I supported Glaciologists (and many other scientists from many disciplines) in Antarctic from '76 to '79. They knew little back then ... but have learned a whole lot more since. The rapid changes that are now well documented are unprecedented ... and show things that normally would take thousands (or ten's of thousands) of years to occur are happening all the time.
And that's a fact.

I remember interviewing a 89 year old Fisherman in Peru' in 1975.
This back when the first "El Nino" was happening. This old guy said he'd never seen anything like it ... and nothing similar had happened during his or his Fathers' lifetime (Father lived into his 80's).

More recently in Peru', they've had massive Fish die offs no one can explain. Tens of millions of dead Fish. Explain please.

So nearly 200 years (a spec in geologic time) of personal experience from some modest fisherfolk of Peru'. What does it mean?
These guys spend their life at sea in small boats. The changes the old man saw he could not believe nor explain. He could only cry.

At the time I had no idea what climate change or global warming was, but we sure as Hell could see something was up and knew this old guy was not making any of this up.

Since then much has been uncovered, studied and proven. 90% of serious, credentialed scientists believe Climate Change is real ... and have PROOF. What's your proof? The Bible?

Are ALL these scientists being "paid off"? Are they Commie Rats? And why are the oil companies trying so hard (and spending millions) to shut them up! (but can't!)

It's real folks. Get used to it. This is not some Hippy conspiracy. But back to the question ... how will you get on your bike and ride once the world begins to fall into chaos? Govts. collapse, infrastructure fails and there is no one around to
"Fix things"?

Scientists need money my dear, the money is in being an Alarmist, actually it usually is.


Not sure why you have to belittle other members, cant you just sit down and open your mind?

Man, thou doth protest too much.

Take the Californian chill pill for the new year.

By the way, it's not real - it is just one more belief system, just as the religion that you tend to belittle.
Throughout the very short history of science, real science that is, the large majority beliefs at any one time have usually been wrong, dead wrong.
A small minority have persevered and eventually published the true state of knowledge.
In recent history of science, the politicians are well ahead of you in this and have taken over the agenda while paying off the academics to write junk science and muzzling the academic "non-violent extremists" via the use of administrators and top down managers.
It equates to the Spanish Inquisition of just a few hundred years ago but now perpetrated by slightly more subtle means.
In this way, the politicians have seen that the fear they need to instill in their populations in order to control them can be continued indefinitely via their own brand of new world order.

Your use of the word "denier" is typical of this whole process - sad to say, but you should take an unblinkered look at what is going on in your own academic institutions in the USA.

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Says you......coming from one of the world's biggest polluters....US dropping Eco bombs on other countries now are they. Wind your neck in and shove your guilt up yer jacksie. See you are still talking down to people...believe I called you out on that several years ago....nothing changes then.

If governments collapse and the world goes to hell I would probably not travel by bike internationally anymore. Not saying it could not be done but it would not appeal to me. Travelling then would be more expedition style, light or heavy. If I "had to", I would go light and try to fit into the starving masses. Bad times for GS owners I guess.

Hmmmm ..... maybe you guys would find me scavenging the streets of Germany, riding my old GS500, toting leather jacket, machete and a sawn off shotgun ... plus my personal weed plantation right in my living room ...

And the worlds flat and carried on by 4 elephants riding the back of a celestial turtle

Back to the original question..........if you bikes are getting a little damp, buy a 4x4 and stay dry and cosy

Personally I see the current global conflicts, IS etc as more of a threat to adventure travel than Global Warming

Read this interview with James Lovelock:

James Lovelock: 'enjoy life while you can: in 20 years global warming will hit the fan' | Environment | The Guardian

there is not much more to be said really. Although I don't agree with his belief that nuclear power will help us.

The problem, IMHO is the Earth is grossly over populated with people and the consequential effect is climate change and mass extinction of other species. The change is taking place now and so it will continue.

As for independent travel by motorcycle / car etc. I think that has a limited future. So enjoy it while you can.

Wow, really surprised at this thread!

Predator guy, trust me, you can get cabin fever on any coast. Here's my place that I leave every year. This isn't me merely someone who visited. Everyone thinks they want to stay for WEEKS or MONTHS, but 3-4 days is average, all people can handle.

Regardless of whether there is climate change or not, the bigger problem imo is we've ****ed up big time. Anyone who's traveled over the decades can see huge differences all over the world. We suck! Garbage everywhere, and not just in 'other' countries. Rwanda banned plastic bags a few years ago. The WHOLE COUNTRY. America? Europe? Adventure travelers lives have already been affected. Hasten the day we ride an electric bike that feels WILD.
(rant over)

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Exactly the point ... and when climate events happen this WILL affect politics.
Big time. Once a country declares a "State of Siege" it will become quite difficult to cross borders or continents.

I'm surprised to see actual climate deniers on this site. I guess HUBB members don't read science journals and believe this is all just a Bible story.