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shit does go down from time to time.
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Best not to go solo if you are the nervous type...for the most part it's very safe everywhere in Baja. I've been going down there since about 1962 or so.
Traveled the length of it first time on a bike in 1970. Hope you never get between a drug gang and the Federales. They've had some shoot outs where
10 or 15 guys (on both sides) were killed. Once again...very very rare, but shit does go down from time to time.

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Although this sounds dramatic, you have occasional outbreaks of violence in the USA also correct?

That said the drug economy is real in Mexico, use your common sense and you are unlikely to hit any trouble. Don`t put your name in the hat for Mexican sheriff at any border towns...
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I just returned from a short trip (via car) to Ensenada and San Quintin.

No problems whatsoever. People were pleasant, the margritritas good. Generally the drivers were ok.

The most remarkable thing about this part of Mexico is the litter, garbage, signage and graffitti. Absolutely horrendous.

Appears no one has any concept of civil pride. I find it quite disturbing. I live in California and I see this creeping north. Compared to other parts of the US, the litter and illegal dumping in California is a huge problem.

Gee - I wonder who is doing it? Must be all those German and Canadain immigrants!

Don't give me any of that cultural sensitivity crap - I have worked and traveled in other 40 countries. I am married to a latina and speak the language passable well.

Bottonline - this level of filth is inexcusable.
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The most remarkable thing about this part of Mexico is the litter, garbage, signage and graffitti. Absolutely horrendous.
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Bottonline - this level of filth is inexcusable.

Wow. It couldn't have anything to do with you living in a cookie-cutter suburb that was built 5 years ago, living on 5- or 6-digit income? And you are comparing it to a place that has a $5 minimum wage. That's PER DAY.

Or perhaps it's because "they" are coming back to the land that was formerly theirs?
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I am speaking as a former Peace Corps Volunteer now. I lived in a poor country, worked with folks who were "the salt of the earth", people had very very modest, but clean homes, hell, I was poor. But we didn't trash our countryside. Having said that, I know what you mean about the cookie-cutter suburban neighborhood - somebodies idea of the American dream yet?
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If only the Bush cabal criminals who currently hold power in the US had that wisdom today.....we'd be about 2 Trillion $$$$$$$$$$ to the better.
We might even have Health Care for the 70 million uninsured in the USA.
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....(we know this from Cowboy movies! ) .....
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Mollydog - I would have replied earlier but I have been busy plotting against the whites! Thanks for disspelling the myth of the "Nobel Savage".
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