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If only the Bush cabal criminals who currently hold power in the US had that wisdom today.....we'd be about 2 Trillion $$$$$$$$$$ to the better.
We might even have Health Care for the 70 million uninsured in the USA.
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....(we know this from Cowboy movies! ) .....
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Mollydog - I would have replied earlier but I have been busy plotting against the whites! Thanks for disspelling the myth of the "Nobel Savage".
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Everything's relative. I know some Mexican folks whose cousins fled Mexico City after other members of the family were killed in a car jacking. They moved TO Baja because it is considered a safe area by Mexican standards.

The murder rate in the United States is roughly triple what it is in Canada but I don't know anyone who hesitates to cross the border for that reason. Is the murder rate in Baja triple that of the United States? I doubt it, in fact, I have a sneaking suspicion that there is less crime in Baja than, say, in L.A.

As for aesthetics, once again it all depends on your point of view. Much of Mexico can appear scruffy by some standards but there's that eye of the beholder to consider. In "Into Thin Air" Jon Krakauer describes a Nepalese village on the approach to Everest as a filthy environment, which members of his team, puking away, are relieved to escape. I spent a couple of days there around the same time and it didn't look that way to me. I kind of liked the place.
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..... I spent a couple of days there around the same time and it didn't look that way to me. I kind of liked the place.
Good post. It's a mind-set and we're all different.

There was a post made in another thread, maybe it was a different one here or on a different site, about how appalled the person was over the trash he saw between Ensenada and San Quintin in Baja. That's Gringo Corridor and a very small piece of the 1,000 mile long peninsula.

It's interesting to learn people's perceptions.
Gold mine vs junkyard kinda thing....
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I read that book....I thought Krakauer came off as a guy who wanted to be a hero. Also a BS artist who stretched the truth..
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Wow, never saw this political discussion coming.

Thanks for the replies on safety in the Baja peninsula. We (Mrs and I) try never to ride at night. We like long sleeps too much for us to even try.

As for riding the place, I would like to get in some dirt riding as tarmac bores the crap out of me most time. But then again, when you already have 20000km (Arg-USA) under your wheels, it becomes more apealing.

Any suggestions? Those pickies look good but noticed the beemers being on concrete. I saw the Baja 1000 docco and thought the dirt tracks look like a trip on it's own.
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