Hi, I was wondering how you keep your bike safe while travelling? When you stop at a restaurant, stop at a park/tourist attraction, etc.

What do you do with your bike when you stop for the night? Hotels vs camping?

I've done searches on this site to see what folks are doing, but only come up with finding a lockup for the night. Any other advice?

Thanks,

Troy

__________________
I had some marbles around here somewhere...

Varying combinations of: tatty cover, battery-powered alarm, steering lock, disk lock, chain and padlock, ride bike up stairs into hotel lobby, remove baggage and ride directly into motel room, secure parking with guard carrying pistol-grip shotgun, insecure parking with absolutely nothing to stop four large men from tossing my bike in the back of a truck and leaving town while I sleep soundly.....and many more.

I try to leave the bike indoors or under guard, but basically take whatever I can get. Usually some sort of secure parking is available, but sometimes not. A cover helps. A chain helps if there's something to chain it to; thieves in most areas are not up to London/New York standards of operation.

All my baggage locks, so I usually leave it on the bike (after removing documents, netbook, camera, toothbrush, etc.), but I've parked in places where I literally ran all my hard cases (that would be five) and locking soft bags (that would be two) up multiple flights of stairs to my hotel room, so fearful was I it'd get stolen as soon as I turned my back. But I've noticed that the more I travel with the bike, the less I worry and fret; this also has something to do with having met people who don't even lock their panniers, plus one guy in Mexico who didn't even have lids for his cases, which were full of professional-grade video equipment.

Hope that helps.

Mark

we do everything that markharf say's above.
we only use a hotel/gueshouse if we are happy with where the bikes will be. the proprietors usually ask.."would you like to see the room"...we say 'no' but we'd like to see where we can park the bikes! I often have sleepless nights, checking every hour or so if we are in a dodgy area.

camping for me is best.....as you can hear everything that goes on at night. during the day if we are unhappy with the security one of us will stay with all of our stuff whilst the other goes and does whatever job etc is needed. if there's just one of you, you just have to make sure that stuff is as secure in your tent as poss. we often use packsafes and then lock them together or/and lock to the front wheel of the bike under the material of the tent. not fail-safe but awkward if someone wants to take something, meaning the thief would have to stay (we hope) longer than he'd want in order to sort out all the chain links and locks.

when we are in a cafe/restaurant etc and our bikes are fully laden - its simple - we just dont park them anywhere where we cant see them. This is the time when they must always be in full view. if we cant see them - we don't go into the cafe and choose somewhere where we can!

we also carry a disc lock each and a chain. locking the bikes together nose to tail also works well.

this all seems to have worked for us so far as we have only had 3 items taken from us in the 7 years we have been on the road......fingers crossed it remains this way.

however, don't let this stop your enjoyment of traveling - not everyone is 'out to get you or your things'!

cheers

__________________
Lisa
www.2ridetheworld.com

Disc lock with a bright yellow plastic wire coil up to the handlebars so I dont forget it is there and so its presence is obvious to anyone thinking of trying to steal the bike.

Usually when travelling overseas the bike is so filthy that no respectable thief would want to take it anyway!

We use a pacsafe to lock the helmets, jackets and boots to the bike when we are parked and sightseeing on foot.

If camping in a dodgy area I take the panniers off, put them on the ground and use the cable of the pacsafe to lock them to the bike. The whole thing is then so unwieldy that a potential thief would surely go and look for something easier to move.

If we are at a hotel that has a night porter or night receptionist and the bike is parked outside I make sure they know it belongs to me and ask them to kindly keep an eye on it during the night. Despite language problems they always seem to get the message and are generally very helpful. I think they are usually so bored they welcome something to do.

We have never had a problem anywhere (17 countries so far).

Cheers

John

I usually carry 2 exta locks: a sturdy disc-lock, and a relatively light cable-lock. A bike cover is also a surprisingly effective way to ´hide´ it from view.
But none of these will help, if a professional thief decides to come and take it, and if there´s a gang of them and they have a van, it´ll be gone in seconds. So in my view the # 1 thing will be deciding the place, where you´ll keep it in the nighttime.

Any place, where there are some obstacles, so it´ll be impossible (or time-consuming) to get a van just next to the bike, will help. Being out of sight from the road, in the backyard, for example, will also. Thieves basically hate to spend time stealing vehicles, because there´s a possibility they could be caught while doing it. So if yours is put in a place, where it will likely take some time to get it out of, then it is more likely they go and find an easier target.

Fortunately hotel and guesthouse owners & staff in many parts of the world understand your worry, and wont mind, if you first ask politely, and then push your beloved bike to a safer place. In more expensive places, it is also common to have a guarded parking.

I could be wrong, but I believe that most of the thieves will not be able to deal with the (good-quality) disc lock in a very short time, so wont be able to push it or ride it away. Lifting the bike into a van remains my biggest concern - any cable lock can be cut in the blink of an eye, and even those that could possibly resist for a few seconds, weigh too much for me. This is why I never leave the bike on the street for the night, if I can avoid it.

When leaving the bike in the daytime, to go walking to some sights, etc., I just use the disc lock, or both extra locks, and then just hope for the best. If there´s a ticket booth, I´ll try to park next to it.

With the disc lock, it´ll also be important to always make sure that you have taken it off, before you continue your trip, or you will have a quick and embarrassing stop!

The biggest thing with security to me is deciding what the threat is. Some street kid in Morocco wants your GPS or helmet, not the the bike. People in Colombia or Southern Africa who want the bike just show you their gun and you give them it (not that many do). There just isn't the layer upon layer of scum ranging from liquid nitrogen equipped steal to order types down to druggies who'll just take what can be picked up with zero effort like you'd get in say London.

In London I use a huge chain to fasten the frame of the bike to the chain down points the councils provide, I leave nothing on it and never use the ignition lock (scum will screwdriver the ignition then set to work on the big chain which only a few will be able to break). Overnight the cover keeps idiots guessing.

In places like Morocco I simply carry away anything that might be useful like cameras and GPS and leave the bike secured with a disc lock that'll blow the minds of the sort of people who might fancy a quick ride round the block at your expense.

I always try and have one more level of security than the next blokes bike (sorry, it works). I don't do electronic alarms as these are the biggest single cause of vehicle breakdowns in the western world.

Andy

Hi,

In Europa i just park it thats all. In Africa i usuarly take everything valuable of of the boxes. People there are usuarly not interesdet in big bikes. Onely tourist do have them but they want your camera etc.

I pferere wildcamping beside my bike. Onely if i have to use a hote i lock the bike with a chain onto something so noone can carry it away.

If i stop for a restaurant or an embassy or at the border i choose a place where i can watch the bike so noone can take my tent of etc.

Travel save, Tobi

Like everybody else, I always parked inside hotels - usually in a courtyard -
I never let the bike out of my sight, and you can get away with parking the bike in some odd places in much of the world!

I always used my Pacsafe at borders. I made some DIY cables with loops at either end to wrap my panniers parcel-style. More of a visual deterrent. Just enough to prevent a snatch n' grab. Canada to Panama, never had a single thing stolen.

__________________
Learn Motorcycle Travel Photography! www.motojournalism.com

Like many others I lock the gear and have the right gear.

Pacsafe tankbag

Hard lockable panniers

Topbox locks

Pacsafe mesh for the camping gear on the back seat.

If I leave the bike I either lock everything down properly or it is in view with shiny flashy things out of sight.

Overnight I usually used hotels and the first thing I asked about was "do you have secure parking?"

I never had a chain, nor a disc lock or an alarm

I was always worried about the bike security, so this meant I was never complacent, and the worry was not a worry if you get my drift, it was just a natural part of the journey and it became second nature.

I also paid a local chap at the border crossings a few 'whatevers' to keep an eye on it, this service was usually offered anyway and I just had to decide which one to give the last of my change to, I never had any problems occur doing that.

Cheers
TravellingStrom

__________________
www.travellingstrom.com