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Poll: (More) a biker or a traveler? Or a 4WDer or a traveler? (vote only one, pls)
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(More) a biker or a traveler? Or a 4WDer or a traveler? (vote only one, pls)

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Old 15 May 2012
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I hope the bloke in the car and 4x4 guy get on, they seem to be rather on their own!



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Now I'm more of a traveller than I am a biker I think.

As I get older, I'm finding myself doing more non-bike travelling. I think that's because I've done quite a lot on a bike and now I feel like I've missed out on other ways to see the world.. I love bike travel but it certainly has it's negatives too.

I back packed in India at the beginning of the year and I'm off to the Yukon in June using a Canoe to head down the river for a couple of months.
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Overland.
And Why a bike?
Yes, hence your poll was perplexing to me when I first read it, and it remains so, hence I haven't voted.
While it has generated a reasonable discussion it is far too restrictive to my own range of interests which amount to any form of getting from A to B.
For instance, I have absolutely no interest in bungee jumping because it is not a means of transport - but skiiing, trekking, snow shoeing, canoeing, sailing, 2 wheels, 4 wheels, flying by all sorts of airframes etc etc, just bring them on!

Overland, oversea, overair - all good for me!

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I hope the bloke in the car and 4x4 guy get on, they seem to be rather on their own!



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Yes, the relatively low amount of input about 4x4 interests is a limitation of this particular website; there was a makeover recently, and I guess that has included some feedback from the 4 wheeler community (which was requested in an earlier thread) about what should be in that section; clearly though, the website remains specifically aimed at two wheeled motor transport - that could put off some people who when casting around in the internet for 4x4 information come across this site and move on, quickly - we have all done it when browsing for new information; first impressions count, sometimes with unfortunate results.
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Remembering back to when, and I still can, I first got a bike so that I could go where I wanted, when I wanted. So it was to be the means of travel.
But then I got hooked on them! What amazing things they are!
Now I still want to, and do, go places, but don't enjoy it half so much if I'm not on the bike.
If I hadn't got hooked on bikes, ( there have been over 40 of them) I'd probably have had more money to "travel" but I'd have just been one of millions in the queuse at airports.
So I have a bike to travel, but enjoying travel on the bike has become the main thing.
I don't care if anybody says I'm a biker or a motorcyclist, but I reckon anybody who says they are either of those to things, but don't use their bike to go places, is something else.
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Yes, hence your poll was perplexing to me when I first read it, and it remains so, hence I haven't voted.
While it has generated a reasonable discussion it is far too restrictive to my own range of interests which amount to any form of getting from A to B.
For instance, I have absolutely no interest in bungee jumping because it is not a means of transport - but skiiing, trekking, snow shoeing, canoeing, sailing, 2 wheels, 4 wheels, flying by all sorts of airframes etc etc, just bring them on!

Overland, oversea, overair - all good for me!
I narrowed the question because the site is mainly about motocycles and travelling.

The trigger to start this poll was this post: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/the-hu-bar/big-bike-little-bike-63679 Some really nice thoughts came out, just look at the 10 "likes"... Sure, I understand you, I was myself puzzled as well, it kind of feels like "excluding out something, why?", but it's only a question to make one think. I'm sure we all here have other interests... although I'm also sure these two (travel & biking) are in the top 5, at least. However, that's why I said: don't vote, don't have to put you in a box. It may happen one is not (or most are not) with any answer, which IMO is not bad, but the opposite.

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In my mind this place seems to be more travelers on bikes compared to ADVrider with seems to be more bikers. Of course there are gradations to each.
Share that vision. For instance, I've lurked around quite a bit there, but never written (yet). It has great things, but I kind of feel it's not exactly my place. Here is more... humble, modest? I like that, I prefer low profile, although I agree they are quite complementary and both great.

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Yes, the relatively low amount of input about 4x4 interests is a limitation of this particular website
I'd like that a lot, really, something to foster: we are all in the same boat, at least we could in HUBB (maybe not in ADV though). Personally, I've travelled much more (which does not mean a lot, but comparatively more) on 4 wheels than on 2. However, in my heart I belong more to biking, so I'm kind of that.

Same goes for cycling, it'd nice to have more of those guys here, they are the real heros IMHO. At least, we have Kayaker heading soon the Yukon...
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Share that vision. For instance, I've lurked around quite a bit there, but never written (yet). It has great things, but I kind of feel it's not exactly my place. Here is more... humble, modest? I like that, I prefer low profile, although I agree they are quite complementary and both great.

It may depend on the thread of choice. I'm pretty much a lurker on the DR650 thread - good vibe with top guys and a library of knowledge over there
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It may depend on the thread of choice. I'm pretty much a lurker on the DR650 thread - good vibe with top guys and a library of knowledge over there
Of course! I've read outstanding trip reports and great bike rebuilts.
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Interesting, I've been thinking about this lately...

Most, if not everyone I know from my "normal" life, does the plane / hotel kind of travel, and never see more than what is in proximity of where they booked the hotel. These people see me as a biker, ie. someone who rides a bike.

And I have to agree with them, in the non-vacation periodes of my life, I'm probably the avg. biker, who takes the bike out for going to work, and the odd ride some where during the weekend.

But the times I'm always looking forward to, and plan months ahead, is my vacation where I go somewhere, at an relaxed speed. Most of the time I meet interesting people, and have interesting discussions about life, universe, and everything. That is when I become a traveler.

By my definition a traveler just goes where the road takes him/her, and makes the best out of it. And most of the time have a jolly good time.

I'd probably not travel as much if I didn't have a bike.

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Good thread Este'
To really see my country, Australia, you need a 4x4, unless you stick to the blacktop. 4x4, quad and trail bikes have been my source of adventures in the past. But times have changed, and I ticked the adventure biker box.
I find you get respect from the local peoples when you travel by bike, as this is the main transport for most of the worlds poor, also you get to taste the air, and no bloody schedules. I had tired as a backpacker not adventuring, spotted an Enfield in Nepal and my life changed. (If anyone wants a fully setup Tojo to cross Aus. give me a yell, I'll seriously give anyone from the Hubb a damn good deal) India is where I owned my first road bike, a baptism of fire as it were, it just got easier from then on.
Estabanc, I'm glad you didn't include a check box - Who cares?, you get more lovin' when you ride a bike-, then I would really have been confused.
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