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Bike Storage in Europe (Germany)

I'm currently living in Germany as a spouse of a DOD civilian. My bike is registered with the military. We are leaving Germany next year, but I would like to leave a bike here so that I can come back in the summers to ride/tour. I would like to know how to go about registering my bike here (?) so that I can come back and use it. I have heard people that store their bikes usually have them registered in their home state. My home state requires an annual inspection for registration so having my bike in Europe won't work. Any thoughts or ideas on how one might go about keeping a bike and having it registered to stay in Europe. Appreciate any ideas/thoughts.
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Hi man,
I think the easyest way would be to buy a bike with german papers in germany, register it on a friends name and take yours home. To import a bike from the US into germany will take a lot of paperwork.
Regards, Tobi
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as I understand your post, your bike is already in Europe, no need to buy another bike.

what you want to do falls into the grey area...
as long as you have insurance to drive your bike in Europe, this is the main concern
if your home country/ state has expiry stickers on the license plate,you might need to either remove them, or make a new plate,
as for bike papers, again you might need to Photoshop any expiry date off.
as long as the papers are 90% correct, your name, plate number, chassis number. I highly doubt you to have any problem, I don't.

my plates have expired, can't renew without local insurance, can't get insurance without the bilke physically been seen, and I'm not ready to send the bike home yet.

out of curiosity, this year when I left Europe, and headed to far east Russia, via central Asia, Iused some photo shopped bike papers, as long as the info that I stated earlier is there, they have no idea what it is suppose to look like..

most countries, don't have expiry dates on their plates, I will make a new plate for my bike and keep going. less info, less questions.

I know of a guy, who bought plates off of ebay, made bike papers, and every year exits the country to get another year temp import. has never had a problem.
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what you want to do falls into the grey area...
Exactly, Edd has hit the nail on the head here. If you register your bike in your home state, and get a plate for it, then the bike is "registered" forever. If you don't renew the sticker (which means, as you pointed out, getting an inspection, etc.), your plate is not valid for use at home... but your bike is still "registered" at home. And, you still have a plate for it, and an ownership (registration document) for it.

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...as long as you have insurance to drive your bike in Europe, this is the main concern
Agreed. You can buy insurance for Europe (the EU countries) for a North American plated bike. That is a fairly simple and relatively inexpensive process, it is well documented here in the forum. There's a sticky thread that explains how to do it in the 'Trip Paperwork' section of the forum. If you want to go into the Balkan countries, you just buy insurance at the border as you enter each country (about €10 to €15 for each country for 2 weeks, except for Macedonia, where it is €50 for 2 weeks).

It is essential that you have this third party liability insurance. You WILL get asked for it at border crossings and at traffic stops.

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...if your home country/ state has expiry stickers on the license plate,you might need to remove them
Once again, Edd has identified the key issue. Once your annual validation sticker from the States expires, just take a hair dryer to it, warm it up, and remove it. Now, you have a plate on the bike, and you have a registration paper to go with it. Don't worry that there may be a matching, dated notation on the registration paper - cops and border officials never look at that. All they are concerned with is that the machine is registered in your name (meaning, not stolen). They are not familiar with North American registration documents, and won't think of looking for an annual registration renewal.

If worst comes to worst and someone does look at the registration document carefully enough to discover that the annual renewal has not been carried out (this is highly unlikely), you can just state that the annual renewal is a 'road tax' in your home state, and you are not using the bike in your home state, hence, no need to renew the road tax. There is an element of truth to that.

I don't recommend that you go so far as to Photoshop (falsify) anything... there is a world of difference between omission of the sticker and omission of the recurrent state-side annual validation, and outright misrepresentation. I've managed OK with omission for quite a few years, but I would never go so far as to falsify things... that's really hanging your ass out to dry.
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