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Virtually ALL off road riding gear today is made in either China, Korea, Vietnam or Pakistan. Even Klim is made in China. With Chinese goods you can get Crap at closeout prices .. or pay more and get really well made gear.
You get what you pay for ... If BMW are making Cars and bikes there ... you know the quality is there ... if you're willing to pay.

In the old days lots of dirt bike gear was made in Finland. Like Sinsalo and many other top brands. No more. Those days are gone ... sadly.
My BMW stuff the tag says made in Serbia. My Macna says made in Czech republic. My gaerne SG10s and my Forma boots, made in Italy. Quality stuff and it lasts many years and breathes. My X Kultcha is locally made.

Gloves I can only find made in china, even BMW branded GS gloves. And cant get a set that will last even a year. The older BMW gloves I think were made in Thailand and lasted longer. The GSIII were Chinese made and tear and come apart.

Quality DS gloves for me is a problem. Unless I go for leather road gloves. The usual problems are the stitching parts, the non leather fibre gets holes, or the leather tears where it is thin. The absolute worse Chinese rubbish was alpine star. didn't even last 4 months. They cost the same as BMW. And I don't wear stuff every day as I have 3 sets of everything so alternate. I don't look at brand anymore but where it is made. I cant find any glove without that dreaded 'cheap kak quality chinese' label.

I will never buy alpine star gloves again. The Five gloves are a but better but also don't last. The BMW gloves are probably still the best around in terms of value but quality has gone down. I don't know what to buy anymore.


I wonder if companies manufacture in different countries for different markets. Perhaps the US market is more made in china dominated. You have in effect outsourced most of your manufacturing and jobs there and I think they hold most of your dollars in circulation lol. Thank you Walmart lol!. We still have options on most things. Like I bought cutlery and crockery for the home and you can find made in spain, france, UK etc. Bike kit and boots easy. Just gloves cant. The only way to stop it really is if the majority of people refuse to buy it.

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