Interesting read through the topic.

my goal in 2022 is getting my 4 runner to Europe and down to Morocco, 2021 was/is a wash, and 2019 was where I had the thought that if this was ever going to happen, use the time to plan and figure things out.

I recently took my 4 runner to the east coast of Canada(im from Quebec) the total distance was 3000Kms over the entire 4 day trip, I slept in the back of the 4 runner (nights were in the 8-10 dgr range), I had a very easy set up, a mattress that fit in the 4runner from amazon and 2 cheap sleeping bags,1 to sleep on and one over the top like a duvet,

Absolutely amazing result, not too cold (you have to crack a window or 2 for condensation) and nice and cozy at night between the 2 bags.

My kids thought I was dumb for not staying in a hotel/motel, but I figured now was a good time to try what I had been thinking about, so I put that into practice.

My 4 runner is a Diesel import that I put together from 2 that were dead, so not the fastest (I keep max speed to 100 KPH indicated) and at 100 its loud inside, so I prefer to tootle about at 80 or so, and take the side roads, not the highways. At that speed its perfect, it allows you travel slow enough to see whats happening on the side of the road and the vista's you are travelling through.

I have looked at motorcycle travel and am always amazed for the folks that do, but I dont think its for me, I have a problem wearing a long coat in the car in the winter! So as much as I am told that it gets you closer to nature and the people, I find that most folks are wearing armoured suits and full face helmets and clunky boots ect, exactly how much are you smelling and interacting ?

and just because I presently have the floor......

I have an ancient CJ3B jeep with no top that really only can to go max 80 KPH and I drive around 50 -60 so I can hear myself think. I would drag that thing to Price Edward Island and drive around with that over hill and dale, take it to the beach with the kids and the dogs ect,everyone would wave,I always had a conversation with locals or tourists when parked up and I was always amazed at how many people in out of province cars who took the time to travel there would be barreling along in their Prius(or fill in the blank,but the Prius folks are the worst), windows up, A/C on,and pass me on a solid double line glaring as if i'm the one that has a problem.

I honestly like nothing better than to travel slowly, windows down (when its not -10dgr) take in the sights, sounds and smells ,get out not cramped,sweaty (you can turn on the A/C and still have the windows down,we are not savages!) or having to take off anything more than my sunglasses. But thats just me.

Dont even get me started on the CanAm Spyders and associated trikes.....heresy personified.


Paulo