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Hi was just interested in what you are paying for usage of photos.i am assuming you are getting paid for your book.
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Not sure on the paying for pictures.
It's not all BMW brochure stuff - I've seen a shot of a dejected BMW airhead rider will multiple punctures by Ruta 3....ugly fellah, and there are LOTS of nice bikes on there sides, upside down etc etc.
I'll rest judgement until I get a read, but there are lots of nice pictures and my brief flick suggested it'll be enjoyable.
At end of day, this is the place for the up to date factual stuff, The AMH is probably the best printed m/c book...but...there are lots of crap (no disrespect) travel books that we'll all happily buy to relive or plan dreams.
I've ordered a copy anyway - uses up the Xmas book tokens!
Maybe we could have an official review by one of the in house authors?
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Hi was just interested in what you are paying for usage of photos.i am assuming you are getting paid for your book.
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If this is a question for me (Chris TheBrightStuff), then I can't tell you, because I don't have a book. If it's a question for Chris Scott, please ask him. If it's a question for HaynesMan, I think we are assuming he's not paying anything.
It is my picture on the cover of Chris Scott's AMH. Exactly how much ChrisS paid me isn't relevant.
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sorrythe question was meant for bob.
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Don't hold your breath for that answer
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sorrythe question was meant for bob.
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After 2 consequetive days of posts, Bob has been gone since Jan 07.
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Lazy journalism
Sounds a bit like this chap on 4wd section http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...dcruiser-33439
Just trying to get you to do the work for them. That's the beauty of the Hubb people take and people give, not just ask a and make a quick buck.
The advice Chris and the others give here is invaluable - i'd much rather suport them than some multinational like Haynes or google.
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The advice Chris and the others give here is invaluable - i'd much rather suport them than some multinational like Haynes or google.
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Well put. I wonder if I'd ever have gone on my big trip if I hadn't found a copy of 'Desert Biking' purely by accident amongst the 'Lovely Planets' in my local Waterstons.
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"Refitting is the reverse of removal" - how many times has Haynes lied to me with that simple sentence? I hope their new manual is more truthful. That said Just the title makes me curious and well worth a flick through at the book store. It is easy to be dismissive about this sort of venture and there is an air of disdain here about the commercialization of bike travel through LWD and LWR.
What we love is getting popular - there seems to be a storm of interest in this kind of activity these days. Perhaps some of us on the HUBB want to get together to do a "1000 places to visit on your bike before you die" type of book. Then as bike travel gains in popularity we can be more specific and we can do "1001 places to visit on your GS1150 before you die". Anyone in on it?
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Got my hands on a press copy last week - I must say it's beautifully put together - Chris's book is the default, full of insanely brilliant information that you'd never think of.
The Haynes book is stunning, the visual shots all do look as if they've come out of KTM and BMW press sets, but the information it contains is really very good - it's a well done introduction to Adventure Biking - in fact I'd go as far as to say if you've not even really thought about it before, get the Haynes have a read and get inspired, then when you actually get into planning your trip get the proper book from Chris S.
I'll be writing a full review in the next few days for a few sites but I'll post it up on this thread too.
Oh incidentally Haynes pay standard NUJ rates for shots used in their books.
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Matt, I eagerly await the 4 hour video of you reading the book!
I hope it includes a section on drinking "wodka" in Russia, a skill we all need to learn!
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Your welcome to any photos that ýou can see on my blog gallery (in sig)
High res available.
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The Book of Lies!
As this is the name used by everyone I know when referring to a Haynes manual I would be a bit concerned about relying on it for anything serious, but then again replacing your brakes is potentially serious....
The AMH is a great read, but perhaps under marketed as I didn't get a copy until it was too late. No doubt if Haynes did a manual it would inspire more people as it would probably get mentioned in all their standard titles, along with being stocked in Halfords! Lets just hope they get some other input - does the book tell people about HU, the font of all knowledge?
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Matt, I eagerly await the 4 hour video of you reading the book!
I hope it includes a section on drinking "wodka" in Russia, a skill we all need to learn!
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Trust you! It won't be four hours though.... maybe three and a half....
Horizons is indeed mentioned in the new book - in fact Grant has a half page to himself to talk about HU and his trip on page 34. On page 33 they suggest HU as a good place to start on the net to start researching your trip.
I'm still not passing judgement yet, haven't really got into it properly.
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Are they still looking for contributors? I was a beginner myself not so long ago and have some interesting-ish pics of me and the Elefant in central asia if they want them
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