'will try it again tomorrow and see what happens when you mix small chunks of meat to the mix prior to cooking.'

Mm, keema naan! If you do this, fry your meat off first, then make your dough. It seals the meat and makes timing the cooking of your bread easier. You won't lose the meaty juicy goodness, because you can cook the bread in it afterwards.
*Joel dribbles*

Did the self raising flour make a good bread? I've only ever used plain flour when making 'camping bread.'

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Joel

Very nice actually - the only thing other than water and flour was a little salt & olive oil. Thanks for the advice on the meat.... I like this cooking experimenting lark.

Self raising flour - yeah it was good - it didn't exactly rise, but it did give it a bit of life I think - will try with plain flour this evening and report back the results...

I'm thinking what I may do on the road is use small food bags with the pre-measured (roughly) amounts of flour in them - clean, simple - but it does increase my waste...

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Good luck getting through borders with small bags of white powder in your luggage.

If you make a little too much rice then save it for breakfast - add milk and sugar, heat up gently and add a sachet of jam (jello) - rice pudding is a good start on a cold day though I usually have porridge, 2 parts water 1 part oats with a pinch of salt and sugar on top.
I try to carry a few sachets of miso soup - delicious with a bowl of basmati rice.
I vote for thick bottomed pans

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"You can't just pick any old bag from the dozen or more varieties sold in the store and make the same rice with all of them. How do you know which one to buy?"

There was also a question about rice in a bag in S. America. Rice in these parts is rice. It comes in a big plastic bag. You take what you can get. ;-) For anything different, you have to hit the modern supermarkets in the big cities.

As for the bread recipes, YUM!!! I hit the road at the end of this week and am saving all these pages to test, can't wait!

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Love the idea of rice pudding for breakfast, may just cook a little extra by 'accident'.

Okay so bread... have tried it with 4 spork fulls of plain flour and about a 1/4 cup of water kept a little of the flour on the board which made the kneading much easier.

The plain flour is nicer (IMHO) and I mixed in a little cinnamon this time which gave it a little more flavour.

The meat has also worked well using the braze before mixing and cooking approach.... but my favourite is keep it simple and plain with a little jam!

Right... what shall I try next?

RE little bags of white powder... very good point.... hadn't thought of that!

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Hello all,

All this talk of bread making got me very excited. So this Saturday night we got a fire going in the garden and got some bread action going.

I've got to say that only the first simple peice of bread we (I) made was edible. The others we tried were were the snake and the ash bread. The snake was made the thickness of thick Cornish farmers fingers, and I think perhaps it should have been delicate little ladies fingers! The ash bread seemed closer to the description, but I think as this point we had eaten enough uncooked dough bread!

Let me say at this point, I in no way think the blame lay anywhere other than in my cooking skills. But I really enjoyed making the dough and can't wait until the 2nd attempt. We've got a year before we go, and I reckon by then I might have it sussed. if not, simpe flat bread it is.

I never realised what fun flour and water is!

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I'm all in for a cup of coffee and rice pudding to start the day :-)

Anyone tried using rice flour to make bread ? i think its used in rural Indai ...

Comments appriciated as I'm Celiac ( allergy to wheat !! ) Italy is a def no go for me... haa haaa...


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Cornish, did you notice how clean your hands were after neading the dough. It adds extra flavour! Make the dough before you do your chain maintenance. I've just bought a ready mixed packet of Hovis granary,"just add water". I'm going to try that one next. Propper bread with yeast and everything! I bet you can get those bread mixes all over Europe, at least. It was only 50p as well.

'I've just bought a ready mixed packet of Hovis granary,"just add water". '

Nooooooooooo, don't do it, money for manky old twine. Is it really that much bother to throw some flour/water/yeast together! Don't buy an already rich man a new car, pick up some local flour! It is also nice to see the differences that different base ingredients make to all food.

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Now, if only I could fit a generator and my bread machine on the back of my bike! The man is going to be waiting a while for that car at 50p a time!

Well for gust some ideas get a Boy Scout handbook. I pack a collins gem SAS survival guide on the road its small. Most big book shops have cook books for camping but there not that grate I find nice ideas. Ruffing it easy comes to mind.

Any way bullion cubes in the rice will add some taste to bland food or wine for that matter add some coconut milk to if you like as well. If you have the space AL foil works well for cooking put all the food in it wrap it up a bit place it in the fire (if you dint bild it to big). Green twigs burn slower than most fish cooks so you can use them like a mat. (banana leef work well so im told)

For food to eat I have eaten more than my share of road kill. Dead is dead hate seeing go to waste. Dryed food like rice and beans work the best for long tips in the bush and some dryed beef and there not bad. I like fresh better. Yams baked up are so nice. With a little know how (books come in handy) wild food can be had most places. For spice I pack Dave's Insanity vary vary hot a little can go long way or sambal badjak not near as hot. I mostly make a stew out of what I have on hand add some mixed corn starch at the end and let it sit a bit. Fresh sea food stew with thing you can get a low tide around rocks and wild garlic is better than most people eat.

Bread is fun to make but a real pain to keep the flour dry I like whole wheat. For bread with no yeast (all that wating for it to rise is pain) in it a bit of salt and sugar is good (some garlic and its better) try not to cook it to fast it will burn on the out side and be raw on the inside. Never tryed it on a stove but over low heat with a few foil wraps under it and over the top will work id bet.

A "bead" made from potatos can be made rice flour will hold it together I dont like it wast of a good potato.
I dont like eating bugs but rosed up and crushed little salt its ok.

Ahh yes Potato cakes... I'd forgotten about them, so damn easy to make too - we used to make them when I was in scouts and cook them on the fire... okay I'm off to experiment again!

Thanks for the reminder!

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For those with a 4x4 wrap a large potato in foil and secure it above the exhaust manifold an hour or so before you stop driving (keep it away from the turbo). Similarly chicken legs and I would think if you had a biscuit tin you could cook all kinds of things.


Chick peas are good for casseroles, just put some in a plastic water bottle in the morning, top up with water and soak all day.

As well as bread try pastry - slice up some apples, lay in a frying pan with butter and cover with sugar and a little lemon juice. Cook gently for 5 mins then cover with a 'disc' of pastry pressing down at the edges to seal.Cover with a lid or foil and place in a not too hotpart of the fire. Place a few embers or burning green sticks above and wait for the pastry to cook. To serve place a plate on top and turnover. Add cream or packet custard

For me the cooking in the evening is as important as the traveling during the day.

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all this talk of food is making me thirsty. On a recent rough camp we took along a bottle of mulled wine and heated over the open fire. mmmmm
great winter warmer but then we had the bother of the glass bottle so next time I am going to fill a 2l bladder with the wine instead. (still havnt tried the powdered stuff yet)

As for the bread I forgot the ingredients so we settled on lamb and dumplings boil in the bag.

There seem to be some good ready and dehidrated meals on the market now and its always nice to carry some of these as a back up and alternative to Mc Chucks.