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Have you heard about wild/stealth camping? I did 7week ride across US only paid for camping 4 times. There are some legal like NF and semi-legal spots to camp.. camped in rest areas too. Camping in Ontario is friggin expensive you pay less for motel in Thunder Bay than for campsite.
As for cleaning while camping when you need shower they charge $5-6 at gas stations/truck stops.
When you get to 3rd world countries it is almost not worth it to camp $30 will buy you a 4* hotel in Ankara and $15 will buy you a dinner, bed and breakfast in Central Asia.. I did camp in Kazakhstan but it was just because you don't really want to be on the road after sunset with horses and especially camels.. they don't reflect any light and surprisingly fast much more dangerous than deer and moose.
Look into hostels (there're several phone apps to help) you can get one in western europe for €10-20 and in less developed countries for <$10. Bring a lock to lock your stuff in provided locker, and look for ones where your bike can be stored safely overnight. Also in Turkey booking.com is blocked if you want to see listings you need VPN
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Hostel cost in Australia
Jens,
I have just looked up the cost of one night’s hostel (YHA) accommodation in Byron Bay, an East coast tourist hotspot close to the Queensland border. A 4- share room is $29.45 Aus dollars per person per night. A 9- share room costs $26.60 p/person per night. We have ‘Backpackers’ hostels also. These are in competition with YHA hostels. Very similar to YHA hostels. Cost p/p per night is a dollar or two cheaper. The costs may go up in a couple of months as peak season hits. Smoky
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Some people a few years ago worked out the average cost of their RTW, with a heavy bias to camping. Basically if you're moving you're buying gas and if you're not then you're buying something else. They averaged $60 a day. More recently I did a mini tour of Europe (cheaper in the east) and averaged about £60 a day. It'll vary depending on the local cost of living from $10 to $100 so there's no universal formula. Just be guided by the locals and other people's experience, wild camp if it's safe and legal by all means otherwise if it's shower day book ahead for the best price you can get at a hotel.
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RTW in November 2022
Jens, interestingly I am planning a similar trip to you. I intend to take a 2016 non-DCT Africa twin bike like your good self. They are a heavy bike but with my weight being 100kgs plus and gear added to that, I found that few bikes up to 2016 are, ‘on paper’, rated to take 190kg plus, combined weight, which I will carry (I’ve weighed most of my gear already). The registered weights listed in the manuals and spec sheets for the same bikes, do not always match mind you but double-checking with mechanics etc is helpful. The twin is modern but does not have too much electronic trickery to trouble you. Apparently, tubeless tyres can be fitted using a variety of kits, if tubed tyres put you off. It is able to use e10 fuel ( much of Europe for example, uses fuel blended with ethanol for all fuel options- so I am told) also. I have had the front and rear suspension replaced and glad I did. Parts shouldn’t be any harder to obtain than other bikes seemingly. Riding off-road will be interesting as, a lighter bike is an advantage for a relative off-roader like me but after looking at approximately 25 different bikes, this one is the choice. I’m sure others will have their favourites which is exactly how it should be, as there is no ONE bike for tripping. Smoky
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