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I'd like to see a more accurate poll ... allowing just ONE VOTE each. Should require the voter to POST and state which bike they prefer. No idea if this is possible with V-Bulletin software. :confused1:
I'd also like to see brands broken out in different models. IE:
Suzuki:
DR650
DRZ400
DR350
V-Strom 1000
V-Strom 650
on so on ...
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You can check the voters profile for bike-details.
But you have to be a bit selective because some people (like yourself) have listed one bike in the profile but selected another bike in the poll.
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You can check the voters profile for bike-details.
But you have to be a bit selective because some people (like yourself) have listed one bike in the profile but selected another bike in the poll.
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Seems most members don't fill in profile information. Does a bike listed in a profile make it "official"? There is no correlation to a vote cast in a poll to ownership far as I can tell.
Bike ownership can be in constant flux. Bikes come and go ... and few ever update their profile. Profile doesn't mean much really. And why would anyone take the time to look up profiles on every poster in a poll? :confused1: A proper poll allows one vote only. Simple. End of story.
But I guess software "experts" can hack into anything to "fix" the outcome? Dunno ... BTW, how did you know what bike I voted for in the poll ....? did you hack into the system to find it? I didn't see that information listed anywhere .... voting results in most parts of the world are proprietary. Brave new world I guess, eh?
I would do a poll but have no idea how to go about it and ABSOLUTELY no interest in learning such arcane "skills". I'm planning the next ride ... for late October. Best time to ride.  It's a little too warm here this week for riding with temps in the low 90F's but the coast is fog free and 10F cooler. Good beach weather. 
Ok kids, back to your Texting now! 
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Bike ownership can be in constant flux. Bikes come and go ... and few ever update their profile. Profile doesn't mean much really. And why would anyone take the time to look up profiles on every poster in a poll? :confused1:
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Well, it's not to hard to click on their name is it?
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...travel-bike-do
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A proper poll allows one vote only. Simple. End of story.
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Yes, this is clearly a bug but as long as we can count the votes manually it's not to bad.
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I would do a poll but have no idea how to go about it and ABSOLUTELY no interest in learning such arcane "skills".
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Relax, you are not allowed to make polls.
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A proper poll allows one vote only. Simple. End of story.
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Why?
I voted twice by selecting two models: Once for Honda and once for Ural because I use both to travel depending on where and with whom I'm going....
With those two votes I answered Ted's question. Having voted, I can no longer vote.
I don't think there's anything wrong with this poll, or thread. I think it's interesting.
The only people who can vote possibly more than once would be guests (if I've understood previous comments correctly) and I can't imagine why people would want to vote again if they've already done it once.
After all it's not a competition.
If you want statistically sound surveys contact Ipsos Mori.
For my part: nice thought, Ted...
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Why?
I voted twice by selecting two models: Once for Honda and once for Ural because I use both to travel depending on where and with whom I'm going....
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I can go with that. No problem. But you missed my point ... see below.
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The only people who can vote possibly more than once would be guests (if I've understood previous comments correctly) and I can't imagine why people would want to vote again if they've already done it once. After all it's not a competition.
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Not a competition? Really? 
Thing is, you or me or anyone can vote AS MANY TIMES AS THEY LIKE, by simply logging OUT of HUBB. Then come back as a "Guest" and vote. You can do it endlessly. Why do you think there are so many VOTES and SO FEW posts by different members? Someone thinks its a competition, obviously, but it ain't me. I voted ONCE ... and I didn't include the 4 other bikes in my garage or the 50 I've owned previous.
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I don't see this as a contest.
There is no use cheating as long as we can count the votes manually. But of course then we can see what brand the cheaters prefer 
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 but why was the Basic white? It looks dirty fastest and doesn't particularly stand out in the sort of enviroments it was designed for (or maybe it does against lush greenery?). White was cheapest in the 80's?
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The Basic was white because the first G/S was white and "back to Basic" should lead your thoughts back to the good old days. It also has a subframe and cockpit from the old era.
I don't agree on the dirt-bit, dark colors are the worst.
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I don't see this as a contest.
There is no use cheating as long as we can count the votes manually. But of course then we can see what brand the cheaters prefer |
Thanks for implicating yourself.
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I know of a few "naughties" who have multiple voted just for a laugh. !!
Ain't the end of the world is it now !
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Not a competition? Really?
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Let's see...
Because some people vote, but don't necessarily need to add anything in a post?
Technically once you've voted you've answered TT's question, unless you voted "Other"...
I voted once and didn't post anything on the thread for a couple of days and then only to lark about....
I think you suspect a subtefuge where none exists...
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Subterfuge? Who knows? Here's the breakdown as of now, you decide Chef:
139 Voters
180 Votes recorded
23 different members posted on the thread in total.
Given the super slow traffic on HUBB, I'd wager several here are doing multiple votes.
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Subterfuge? Who knows? Here's the breakdown as of now, you decide Chef:
139 Voters
180 Votes recorded
23 different members posted on the thread in total.
Given the super slow traffic on HUBB, I'd wager several here are doing multiple votes.
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23 members posted, but about 115 voted: so not every one decides to post on the thread...
OK, here's another breakdown:
For the HUBB as a whole as of the time of this post:
" Currently Active Users: 237 (23 Users and/or Members and 214 guests"
- Almost 10 times the number of guests as there are members.
- Not all voters may feel the need post a comment.
- Some may vote for two or more brands, such as myself.
So, as you suggested, I've decided:
It's all legit' and representative - voters just like to say which brand they have and most have better things to do than post more about it!!
I really don't think there is a problem here....
And what makes you think I work in a restaurant...?
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I'd wager several here are doing multiple votes.
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with your figures to prove it then you should win that wager, and you can see the names of who voted on each type anyway
for the record, I multi voted 'cos like many people I have two touring bikes :-)
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