Wasnt you a good little Boy for Santa then?

WHY buy it and make Mr Boorman even richer? I just downloaded it from the Internet

PIRACY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got a copy of the book too. I also got a copy of "The road to Gobblers knob" by Geoff Hill. I'll read them both but I know which one I'm reading first ! Triumph Tiger on the Pan-American... ooh suits you sir.

The road to where?????
Is that top shelf stuff then?

Santa brought me LWD too.

I wish they would at least acknowledge those whose books, dvd's, etc, they used as reference. Not really an adventure if you're working to such a tight and rigid schedule. At least they make better entertainment than that bloke who does "Riding Eastern Europe" for the Travel Channel. Can't say you wouldn't love it as a job though.

The main thing that stood out for me while watching LWR was that if anything major had gone wrong, they had the money and means to have bailed out of it at any time, called in a helicopter and be airlifted to safety. Respect to those who have done it themselves, on their own bikes, with their own money, no back up crew and have pretty much no choice except carry on or turn back if it goes tits up.

Did make me laugh when the Snap-On gear arrived, with a tool chest "especially made for Charley Boorman". Watching him fit the pannier brackets at the BMW dealer, it was quite clear the guy didn't know one end of a spanner from his own arsehole.


A comment on Charley from The Times,

...is questioned by four policemen at Gatwick after telling an air stewardess that he has a bomb;".

12 of my mates were stripped searched at Newcastle Airport for one of them saying exactly the same thing. Now that would have made funny TV.

It's the road to ;

Dalton Highway .

Named after a famous event that happened ;

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I also got "The Linger Longer" by Simon & Chris Raven, which is UK to Vladivostok by £300 Ford Sierra. Not bad, but the typos, spelling mistakes, bad grammar and general weirdness ("window screen" not "windscreen", anyone?) is driving my barmy, do people not use proof-readers anymore (checks to see his spelling and grammar is ok).

But that's nothing to do with E & C is it?

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Dodgy, you have sum STRANGE pics on your HD dude!

Of course there is no such thing as individuality

Have you not heard of fashion:
In clothing designers design, fashion houses copy and everyone buys the product.

Holidays: A few Brits go to Spain for a holiday, 30 years later we have communities out there complete with Fish and Chip shops.

The list is endless, wake up and take a look around you sometime.

For what it's worth I enjoy watching it, the Long Way Down too.

Yes, I do ride, a CB 500, but when I go to Tunisia with my family I take a Discovery, been 3 times now but for me it is an adventure every time.
We'll camp at Ksar Ghilane, 1 ground tent, for the kids, one roof tent, me and the wife. We cook on a coleman duel fuel, sit in camping chairs and fetch our own water, pretty basic stuff.
Then, along comes this damn great 4x4 "lorry" (truck), fully kitted out, shower, double bed, hot water, cold water, toilet, etc etc.
So, who's having the adventure, who is doing it the correct way?

We meet convoy's of 3 or 4 vehicles, they're armed with GPS and they're off to El Borma via the dunes. They've not done the route before, there are 4 vehicles and they're pretty well self-sufficient, no TV quality cameras though. Are they any different, is the adventure not there? Ewan and Charlie have support but then so does a convoy of four independant travellers.

Is it not the case that most of the first explorers recorded their expeditions using the equipment of the day, has it stopped others doing the same trip with more modern equipment.

It's just what we do, we are all different, but then are we?

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The difference is how you present the trip. If you present it as group effort then there is nothing wrong. If you present it as "Two guys, two motorbikes", then there is difference.

This thread started 8 weeks ago and at that time I’d read some of the new book Long Way Down. I’d read the Long Way Round and watched it on our copy of the DVD series when it was released a while back. On 31st October I said, Well I’ve been reading the comments here and now watched the Long Way Down series on DVD (Christmas pressie). I stand by my earlier comments. The series made my wife and I want to jump back on the bike and ride off again (we just completed 5 months around western Europe). Best we can probably do though is to plan 3 or 4 months around USA and Canada in 2009. Now maybe our sort of bike travel isn’t as adventurous as undertaken by many on the HUBB (westernised versus undeveloped/developing countries), but isn’t it the sprit of the thing?

There is a strong sense from some on here that they seem to need to defend their thing as something more adventurous and “out there” than what “other” people do. I understand this but don’t really think its necessary. I used to jump out of aeroplanes (over a 1,000 jumps, an instructor, and competed at National level in the sport). If ever I was “defending” my chosen pastime against comments by whuffos (non-jumpers), it was usually done a bit tongue-in-cheek. However there was never a need to put down those already engaged in the sport. The common bond was strong.

It reminds me of the meeting Ewan and Charlie had (on the first trip) with Ted Simon (author of Jupiter’s Travels), where Ted said: This is the common bond. Ahto, there is a lot more footage of the rest of the Long Way Down crew in this second series and I see no trying to hide the fact that they have a lot of support. In fact at the beginning of every segment, they repeat the details of the back up resources. I think though the unsung hero is Claudio. He’s there for it all, filming the lot, and with little exposure.
You’ve struck a chord Kevin - its called “airheadism”. If you haven’t already, read Shelly Gare’s book, “The Triumph of the Airheads (and the Retreat from Commonsense.)” It covers it beautifully – I recommend it.
Cheers
John

Hear, hear!

John, I think you said everything that I was trying to, in an educated way.

Cheers,
Kevin

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No individuality? Come to any Horizons meet and you'll see individuality! By the shedload!

But you were talking about the average person, the followers.

Surely, "Hubbers" are individuals they are the leaders, but you appeared to be talking about the masses, the people that aspire to do, but maybe they never actually make it.

Everyone to their own, we're all individuals, some are better at showing it than others.

Live your own life Caminando, and let others live their's.

Love,
K

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so the thing is about LWD....

um I forgot what I was going to say.

m

(the website was very very good though)

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