So where would something like this fit in?

http://www.cannonballbikerun.com/

A "real" adventure or a jaunt for the boys?

I dont think anyone here genuinely dislikes Ewan or Charlie, nor do they have sleepless nights in pain or agony over what they are doing. I know I dont anyway.

I think we all like poking fun at them just like anyone with a bit of "real" overlanding experience likes to have a little laugh at the noobies or the Sunday GSers. They clearly love riding and overlanding its not important how "real" they keep it.

As for my comments, Its all meant tongue in cheek and in good humour. I´ve been on the recieving end of jokes and tutting when I started out (and still am). Its all part of the game.

There are no rules !! I dont understand the Elitism of some people.

If they showed up at a Horizons Unlimited meeting , would any of you guys shrug them off or not give them a warm welcome ?? (thats if you could see them past the UKGSers getting their DVD´s signed)

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Don't poke fun! I was in that cue and I don't even own a GS! (okay I once rode one and promptly fell off)

Charlie is a genuine guy when you meet him, I don't know him at all and only get that from the very brief 'hello' when I asked him to sign the Dakar book at last years bike show.

It's sometimes really hard to weigh all these things up... Long Way Round ignited a bit of a travel bug in me, which lead me to Ted Simon and then I discovered Mondo Enduro - yes it's easy to be snobby about those people who have 'done it for real' - but it essentially boils down to what we think this lark is all about - something we explored in depth in the What is Adventure Biking? thread.

For me it's the Harry Potter argument. HP is considered in the lit' world to be rather beneath 'real' lit' works - but the fact is is appealed to a very large, broad audience and it got kids reading. I see LWD and LWR in the same light.

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Actually, that a very good comparison and it makes a lot of sense !!

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We all have had great fun ripping them apart, me included, and I will admit to being glued to the programmes........ The thing IMHO that "grated" with most of us was the " 2 Blokes, 2 Bikes" Bullshit!
sure they needed some backup if they were gonna do a film of it, that is a reasonable and allowable necessity.

The people I feel sorry for are the guys that have bought BMWs on the Back of that programme and found out that they ARE just as hard to handle off road as Ewan and Charley made em look! Big heavy Elephantine things that they are....... I Love my XT I do!


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Sorry, Craig, this site only sells stuff. Doesnt tell you about the event, as far as I could tell.

Well... there is a first time for everything.... me making sense for example!

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I have had to adjust my feeling towards E+C, due to receiving the book and DVD for Christmas I started to watch the first part of the journey (disc 1) yesterday, with a glass of whisky, and fell asleep nicely So it ticks most of the boxes for me .
I do feel for Claudio (sp?) who has been pushed further into the background this time, although he was doing the same (but more) as E+C


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Just a thought.

I really don't understand why people have a problem with this show (apart from being on the wrong colour bikes i.e. not orange). I enjoyed and when they set I could feel the excitment build.

So what if they had a support crew etc etc as others have said they were making a TV show.

As for being sheep in terms of the product placements, those Arai helmets look okay, it is a PIA riding in traffic with googles no peripheral vision.

Perhaps they are still stuck in the Fesh-fesh?

Okay…
I’m not an expert on the African continent but I have visited it a few times and I have driven approximately 70kkm in 20-25 countries. There is still a lot left to experience and my next trip will hopefully start within a month.

First of all I haven’t seen LWD but I guess the same goes for a few people that have replied here… I will probably watch it, as I did with LWR.
I look forward to see it; as I always look forward to see movies from Africa.

I don’t care if they travel fast or with a crew or about the (loss of?) humor, but I do care a bit about what it tells about Africa and the people who lives there. After all it’s a kind of semi-documentary film.
The fact that they have huge sponsorships and other motives then other overlanders doesn’t bother me. Neither does it bother me that it gives a false impression of what it’s all about.
After all it is a movie, it’s made to sell as many copies as possible and it’s not meant to be the “thruth of overlanding”

What I care most about is how they threat the locals. I guess most of the locals find this circus amusing enough but when you travel you are also more or less an ambassador for the first world and I’m not sure if this guys are up top the task.
I think this subject should be discussed more on the HUB. Subjects like gifts, bribing and so on.

Well, maybe I should see the film….

Probably the riders that have done serious African trips have not 'risen to the bait'

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