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Is it me? or are they using the same script they used for wrong way round.
Listen to the ten minute intro to each chapter it is virtually verbatim.
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Is it me? or are they using the same script they used for wrong way round.
Listen to the ten minute intro to each chapter it is virtually verbatim.
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By having the same production team I guess it was inevitable.
Still it is another million pounds (or more, what was that quoted figure for income from the LWR?) in the coffers so no problem really.
I have gradually come to the conclusion that the main thing that I don't like about this programme (reference many of the earlier posts for and against) is the very presence of the production team in the programme - for most/every/all documentaries (is that what it is, or is it a soap?) they stay out of sight.
In this case, it is a couple of 4x4s with some bikes tagging along - in quite a few of the scenes, the main player is someone or other who sits in the cars, especially those who hog the camera lens - you guys have named them earlier, I can't be bothered to learn their names!
Why, in heavens name, are those bikes riding in a convoy with a couple of cars in Europe?
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Just picked up this thread, most amusing. Most of you writing seem to be 'travelled' folk so have a different perspective on it to the 'ordinary' biker. We have the privalage of the insight that the travelling has given us. Done all the research and paperwork ourselves and got the miles laid down.
I too get erked by the LWR comments I get as though they are the first m/c adventurers and love to thow Ted Simons journey into the pot, (am I any the less an adventure m/c traveller for having read his book and spoken to the man?) but also I have to appreciate that people don't think I'm on some kind of suicide mission now. After all it's on the telly so it must be ok.
The number of people who tell me that they would love to do a RWT is amazing, the number who will go is very small, so the LWR team are feeding their fantasy. Is that a good or bad thing? Donno
Me? I reckon sponsorship brings too many responsibilities with it, I just want to be free to do my thing.
And what about all that stopping and starting to get a shot of them coming round this bend or over that bridge, That would drive me nuts, I won't even stop to go back and take a photo if I've passed a good viewpoint.
So my guess is that we can all see it on two levels, the 90% hype and the 10% 'don't you just love it.' I think that causes these mixed feelings that I observe here. But what really matters about the HU fraternity is the encouragement that you don't need to be a TV star to get out and ride, be it to the ends of the earth or just down to the park. Talking of which I gotta go and find some food for tonight, if I have another McD I'll get BSE
Overnighting in Hurricane, Utah
PS not sure I've added anything to the debate, but I like to post when I can get a connection, makes me feel I belong at least somewhere nowadays
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Stagbeetle your never alone anymore. There's always someone online to talk to. I feel I belong and I'm at home drinking gin and tonic. You're on the road living the dream. You're the reason I log on. Think yourself lucky I've just finished an afternoon shift ! I'd trade places with "the actors" any day. Although I'd torch those following trucks.
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Well I enjoy it anyway.
But it is of course a television programme that is aimed at a much wider audience than a few bike enthusiasts.
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Stagbeetle your never alone anymore. There's always someone online to talk to. I feel I belong and I'm at home drinking gin and tonic. You're on the road living the dream. You're the reason I log on. Think yourself lucky I've just finished an afternoon shift ! I'd trade places with "the actors" any day. Although I'd torch those following trucks.
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Torch the trucks?. But what would poor Ewan and Charlie do if they get a puncture then ? They can't repair punctures, and the spare wheels with tyres would be ablaze...................Go for it !!
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Hi, this could be really good TV but unfortunately C&E are so far up their own arses it makes it cringworthy. Why not show the real people they meet and more of the place than have 5 minutes of the program showing Boreman lighting his farts
"Well Judda, I wish you well on Italian autostradas - I hated them because of the Italian nutcase habit of drifting in REALLY CLOSE when they overtake a bike. The are lazy dangerous dogs...watch out....they'll have you off....never really liked the country actually.."
You're right about the autostradas but Itally away from them is excellent, especially in the mountains, hospitable people, lovely countryside and good wine, what more could you want.
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Yes friends when you say that Italians are lovely.....I admit I havent checked that out properly. I think I am in a minority of one on my attitude to Italy!! I couldnt find ANYWHERE on the road up from Brindisi to do a spot of wild camping...I ended up sleeping behind an air/tyre pressure machine near the petrol pumps ... I was very grumpy in the morning as it was pissing down too. Then nearly pushed off the autostrada by every 6th car.....but I saw one bloke with Spada overboots which I coveted and so I got a pair back home and they're great and only £10...so its not all bad in Italy!
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Just picked up this thread, most amusing. Most of you writing seem to be 'travelled' folk so have a different perspective on it to the 'ordinary' biker. We have the privalage of the insight that the travelling has given us. Done all the research and paperwork ourselves and got the miles laid down.
I too get erked by the LWR comments I get as though they are the first m/c adventurers and love to thow Ted Simons journey into the pot, (am I any the less an adventure m/c traveller for having read his book and spoken to the man?) but also I have to appreciate that people don't think I'm on some kind of suicide mission now. After all it's on the telly so it must be ok.
The number of people who tell me that they would love to do a RWT is amazing, the number who will go is very small, so the LWR team are feeding their fantasy. Is that a good or bad thing? Donno
Me? I reckon sponsorship brings too many responsibilities with it, I just want to be free to do my thing.
And what about all that stopping and starting to get a shot of them coming round this bend or over that bridge, That would drive me nuts, I won't even stop to go back and take a photo if I've passed a good viewpoint.
So my guess is that we can all see it on two levels, the 90% hype and the 10% 'don't you just love it.' I think that causes these mixed feelings that I observe here. But what really matters about the HU fraternity is the encouragement that you don't need to be a TV star to get out and ride, be it to the ends of the earth or just down to the park. Talking of which I gotta go and find some food for tonight, if I have another McD I'll get BSE
Overnighting in Hurricane, Utah
PS not sure I've added anything to the debate, but I like to post when I can get a connection, makes me feel I belong at least somewhere nowadays
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Hi D
Hope alls going well now - youre never alone on the HUBB! Good roads! The other D is in El Salvador I think!
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That's more like it Cami
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Yes I cant help liking them - I like the daft humour too...thats the kind of stuff I do too...I also like the self mocking humour they show...they know the "luvvy" bollocks is silly and they make fun of it.....
But CB is terrifying to look at when he sticks his head out of his tent and yawns.....ugggggggh!!!! gag!!!retch!!!Looking down into that cavernous gob is truly revolting...his wife is a brave woman...
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I think they should be invited to the next HU meeting to give us all a talk on how to do a trip down Africa.
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I think they should be invited to the next HU meeting to give us all a talk on how to do a trip down Africa.
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I can do that for you now....
1) Ask the BBC to plan and pay for all paperwork, visas and routes
2) Ask BMW and other sponsers to deliver bikes and prep it for you
3) Wake up every morning and be told where to be and at what time
4) Arrive at Cape down and have a party.
5) Go home on your pre-booked business class flight and watch the money roll in.
Similar "holidays" are available in the back of MCN
Joking aside, I kinda feel sorry for them. They seem to get fed up of being told what to do and where to go. I dont know why they dont just go it alone with just the one camera man on the bike. They would have 10x more respect and 1000x more fun going it alone at their own pace.
I do get the feeling that they probably wouldnt do it at all if they didnt have the backup.. I think thats what irritates the rest of us.
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Think yourself lucky that you've only watched it on tv. In a moment of weakness I've just bought the book (in mitigation it was half price!).
Did they make a reference to Ted Simon or am I imagining it? Ray Mears seemed to make a brief appearence so I was surprised that Chris Scott didn't get consulted (or maybe he did and just hasn't mentioned it here)
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Did you know that if you buy both books you get the chance to spend the night with Charlie Boorman? in his tent....
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The really sad bit is that I've got all three books - I was given CB's Race to Dakar book as a Xmas present last year. What does that get me? No, don't answer, I really don't want to know!
Somehow I seem to acquire these things without really intending to. I've also got three copies of Chris Scott's Sahara Overland and the original loose leaf Desert Biking, two copies of Jupiters Travels, Zen and the Art etc and numerous lesser known ones. Perhaps I ought to get out more.
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The really sad bit is that I've got all three books - I was given CB's Race to Dakar book as a Xmas present last year. What does that get me? No, don't answer, I really don't want to know!
Somehow I seem to acquire these things without really intending to. I've also got three copies of Chris Scott's Sahara Overland and the original loose leaf Desert Biking, two copies of Jupiters Travels, Zen and the Art etc and numerous lesser known ones. Perhaps I ought to get out more.
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Or set up a secondhand bookstore?
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2 true quotes
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I can do that for you now....
1) Ask the BBC to plan and pay for all paperwork, visas and routes
2) Ask BMW and other sponsers to deliver bikes and prep it for you
3) Wake up every morning and be told where to be and at what time
4) Arrive at Cape down and have a party
5) Go home on your pre-booked business class flight and watch the money roll in.
Similar "holidays" are available in the back of MCN
Joking aside, I kinda feel sorry for them. They seem to get fed up of being told what to do and where to go. I dont know why they dont just go it alone with just the one camera man on the bike. They would have 10x more respect and 1000x more fun going it alone at their own pace.
I do get the feeling that they probably wouldnt do it at all if they didnt have the backup.. I think thats what irritates the rest of us.
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I think they should be invited to the next HU meeting to give us all a talk on how to do a trip down Africa.
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These are probably the 2 best posts on here, Well said chaps, to even get in touch to enquire if they would come to a HU meet it would most likely be a premium rate number to call. It would be great to have Boorman there, fill him up with baked beans and let him light his farts and hopefully blow his king head off
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