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Sent you an email. Please let me know if you received it.
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Hi maxim_unanov,

late September is unfortunately too late for me. I have however just received an email from Mr. Gu at Tibet Tours who has a group of 3 bikers who plan to do the trip starting on the 23rd of September.
Send an email to tibet at tibet-tours . com for more information

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Thanks a lot Joe GS
I'll contact them and try to sort things out.
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BikerT, Joe GS and maxim_unanov:

Thanks for the responses !

I sent each of you a PM - as it is easier to chat via e-mail,
plus we have a group of 4-10 people all looking to cross China
in the fall, with a number of routes options on the table.

Maybe get in touch via e-mail and we can see where everyone
is at with options, etc.

PS - not Russian - Canuckistanian...

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Stuart

Hi Stuart,

I have sent you an email.

Cheers,
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accelrus: you've got pm.

We are also interested in crossing, we're on a 4WD for this trip instead of motorcycles. (time for a change...)
So any info is welcome, we are flexible in timing etc.
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Hey everyone!

Just received an email from NAVO-Tours. Here is their offer:

So far, there are 2 groups intend to cross China from Kyrgyzstan to Pakistan via China, one of them intends to enter China from Irkestan in September, another one intends to enter in the spring of 2015.
So if everything goes well, you can join in the former one, I will try my best to do it.


If you plan to make a solo trip, based on the situation I suppose as following, the reference quote is 29000CNY/Group.
--- 1 motorbike
--- 1 rider
--- 5 days duration
--- Entry from Turogart/Irkestan, exit from Khunjerab pass.

Below are our price quote terms and conditions:
Terms and conditions
Includes
1. All the paperwork needed for self-driving tour (provincial ones, Customs ones, etc.)
2. Cost for vehicle (Temporary driving license for vehicle, temporary license plate, and insurance for vehicles.)
3. Cost for drivers ( Temporary driving license for driver)
4. Navo’s service charge ( Include the English-speaking guide)
5. The rent, road toll, fuel for support vehicle.
6. The process fee in the Custom when enter China.
7. The process fee in the Custom when exit China.
Excludes
1、 Accommodations and meals: You need to own account and also pay for the guide and driver during the group day. The guide and driver will eat and stay the same with the team, no matter tent or Hostel.(NAVO can help to pre-book the hostel as you require)
2、 Entrance tickets: You may choose the sights or scenic spots you like, and pay it at spot when you visit.
3、 Your vehicle: The fuel, road toll, traffic accident compensation, repairing cost, spare part and parking.
4、 Cost for emergency if the clients enter China in advance or leave China before the end of the tour.
5、 Other personal charge.
6、 The group vehicle deposit at the Custom of entry border

The reference quote for 3 motorbikes and 3 riders is CNY 29000/Group, so the cost for each member is CNY 9660.

It actually twice more expensive that I expected. They also mentioned that this group now consists only of 2 people and if someone will join the group they will get an update on cost.

Oo-SEB-oO Maybe you can try to email NAVO-Tours and we'll see how it may change the prices?
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My major concern for the moment is that I need to be able to get back...
From Pakistan to Iran in order to get home.
As the Quetta - Zahedan road is a "problem" for the moment I'm not sure anymore if at this time it will be possible for us.
I'm keeping a look at this one, as we really want to make a loop there before heading back home, but I don't want to be 'stuck' with a 4WD in Pakistan or India and having to ship it out
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Hey all - sorry busy week !

I sent you all an e-mail, and sent your e-mails to
get added to the Google Group.

I looked at your quote - and that is about double the
cost of the quote I have... See post #9 on the first
page of this thread... If I did the conversion correctly !

I was also contacted by Navo - since I spoke to them
a 4-5 months ago... they are looking to get a larger group
organized, in order to reduce costs.

Maybe to help clarify things - what routes are you
considering, and some rough dates - there are many
ways across China

Right now most of us are looking for ways to avoid
the KKH (and really Pakistan) due to the unrest and
risk involved with that.

Routes that avoid Pakistan are:

1) Irkestam -> Tibet -> Nepal

2) Mongolia - Tibet -> Nepal

3) Mongolia -> Laos

Sent you all an e-mail as well.

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Hi everyone,

I have received 4 quotes so far for the trip from Torugart to Khunjerab.
Navo is actually the most expensive of them.

The best quote I have received looks as follows:
2pax total: 3167.2USD => Per Person: $1583,6 - EUR 1153
3pax total: 3691.8USD => Per Person: $1230,6 - EUR 896
4pax total: 4216.4USD => Per Person: $1054,1 - EUR 767
5pax total: 4741USD => Per Person: $948,2 - EUR 690

I'm planning to enter China through the Torugart border around September 6.
Let me know if anyone is interested in joining.

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Joe
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I am interested in entering China through Kyrgyzstan or Tadjikistan and exiting somewhere between Kashmir and Vietnam (!). Around September.

1-up or maybe 2-up bike.

Please let me know if there is any email list or something I could join.
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Same here around September. 2 bikes.. Please include me in the email list if there is one... explorerdxb@gmail.com.


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Welcome !

Sent FS a PM, and sent EXPLORER-DXB an e-mail.

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Thanks!

Forum rules prohibit me from sending PMs before having 5 posts in the forum... Dont wanna post email here so will reply to PM later
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We are also possibly interested in a crossing of China around September time, potentially Torugart or Irkeshtam > KKH then another China crossing: Nepal > Mongolia (or Laos > Mongolia if a crossing of Myanmar can be sorted), in 2015.

We have a 4x4 camper.

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Re China, we are travelling across the Torugart Pass into China leaving Naryn 20th August for Kashgar.
We will then take 28days to travel across China (avoiding the BIG cities as we have lived previously in China) to Laos. We have appointed a Chinese agent/guide and currently finalising the itinerary.

We have a seat in the 4x4 for a guide.
if anyone interested in sharing all or a part of this journey, let me know.

Andy
Hi Andy,
definitely interested in joining you! We are two motorbikers with a possible third biking friend joining us. We are also looking at august/september, exactly your route.

May I ask which agent you have decided to go with??
Ciao for now, Laura
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