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Update
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Did my second last update say our group was going to cross into China via Mongolia???????? Sorry but that has now changed for reasons beyond my control. Just when plans appear to be rock solid they melt away.
Several emails later we ( the group from UK ) are crossing into China via Kyrgyzhstan.
If everyone who have expressed interest ends up crossing China the guide costs come down to approx. GBP 1500 - 2000 which is reasonable. That is for a 32 day trip.
We exit via Laos.
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Wher are you?
Jimmy
Have been sending unanswered emails. Keen to talk if you are still 100% committed.
David
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Hi David, subject to timing I am 100% committed to traveling through China.My preferred route is Mongolia to Laos. I know its not going to be less than £2000 plus my costs ( food, fuel and accommodation) and could be 50% more.On the subject of duration I cannot see why you would want to pay all this money then race through China without drawing breath, 30 days would seem to be the norm for this route, I was told that adding a bike to a 4x4 trip would add a few days as bikes are not allowed on expressways.
Just to be clear for this to work for me I need to be entering Laos late mid to late July. If this fits count me in.
Thanks Jimmy
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Didn't work out
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There for a while I thought sanpedro and yourself were a real chance for us to join up BUT it didn't work out. Your keeness for KKH is not what I am interested in.
If everything goes pear shaped with the Brits then I may have to re-consider.
Ride safe.
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Hi Paul
we are thinking of going up the KKH entering China at the Khunjerab pass,exiting China at Touragart pass.
Were thinking maybe around June ,we are flexiable if we are going to team up with other people.
We do know of 3 other intrested groups with similar plans,im thinking that in the new year we are going to have to make concrete plans with those who are interested.
cheers Clive and Chris
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28 Oct 2012
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Hi David,
i have defiantly got to go through China,quick, or longer if the the group is large enough to keep costs down,Sandpedro travel plans have changed a bit but still wants to be in the loop if things change for him.
If i cant join a group i will be doing the quick dash like i have stated previously up the kkh. It is not my preferred route ,but will be the cheapest one if its just me or if someone else joins me,which would be welcoming.
At the moment my head is around getting everything ready for hitting Malaysia in Jan.
cheers Clive and Chris
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29 Oct 2012
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Aus to UK
David,
Thanks for your reply. Let me know if your plans change.
Enjoy your adventure,
Paul
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hi Paul,
whats your thinking of crossing China?
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Hello Clive and Chris,
If we continue with our plans to transit China we will enter via Laos or Vietnam.
We may just fly from Bangkok to either Nepal or Bangladesh. My son who has just graduated from Uni is on a very tight budget so our plans will be dictated largely by the cost of transiting China.
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30 Oct 2012
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Keep in touch Paul,with your plans and I will do likewise
Cheers Clive and Chris
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30 Oct 2012
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Mongolia China Laos
Hi all please see attached Email from Tibetreisen, they seem to have a group traveling in September, its too late for me, I have emailed the German group asking if they are flexible at all on dates, awaiting reply
Hi Jimmy,
is it possible that you enter China in September?
One German pair will do this route and welcome the accompany, and have seat for guide.
Can I forward your e-mail to the Germen?
Best regards
Hongquan Dong
From: Jim jones
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:57 AM
To: info@tibetreisen.com
Subject: RE: Self drive motorcycle through China Mongoila to Lao
Thank you for the e mail. My schedule is flexible a little, route is Mongolia to Laos through China 29 days + - . My preferred date is Enter China June 6th to exit into Laos early July ( flexible a little +- 5 days). I hope this helps and we can build a group most important is one 4x4 with seat for guide.
Regards Jimmy
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China - looks like it going to happen
Jim
Thank you for your post.
We have a core of 3 X bikes and 2 X 4 wheeled vehicles. There are a couple of others who are yet to decide. We have Australian, German and Brits so far. Maybe a Brazilian and another Aussie.
We are in final discussion, negotiation, to sort out the finer details.
When I last spoke to you - you were 100% on board depending on timing.
The group will be entering China via Kyrgzstan and transitting China over 30+ days. The entry date has not been decided but looks like being late June.
It is not the Mongolia entry you were asking for but hey you still get to do China.
If those details suit you or you want more please get back to me or Jim Griffiths who you have spoken to as well.
Cheers
David
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Hi all please see attached Email from Tibetreisen, they seem to have a group traveling in September, its too late for me, I have emailed the German group asking if they are flexible at all on dates, awaiting reply
Hi Jimmy,
is it possible that you enter China in September?
One German pair will do this route and welcome the accompany, and have seat for guide.
Can I forward your e-mail to the Germen?
Best regards
Hongquan Dong
From: Jim jones
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:57 AM
To: info@tibetreisen.com
Subject: RE: Self drive motorcycle through China Mongoila to Lao
Thank you for the e mail. My schedule is flexible a little, route is Mongolia to Laos through China 29 days + - . My preferred date is Enter China June 6th to exit into Laos early July ( flexible a little +- 5 days). I hope this helps and we can build a group most important is one 4x4 with seat for guide.
Regards Jimmy
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Torugart Pass, China, Laos
Hi All, Well I did fancy riding Mongolia but it seems that Kyrgyzstan is much preferred. I have not done any research on the stans, I did a quick google maps route, it seems the shortest distance Calais to Torugart is 6800 km . I would like to take my time travelling but circumstances mean it might not be possible. Can someone give me an idea of roads, ease of travel, rough none rushed time scale from Khazakhstan to Torugart. Would two weeks be steady with time for a few days off?. I am happy to rush through Europe and Google maps says it 4000km Calais into Khazakhstan, happy to knock that off in under 14 days. This would mean one month to China, one month in China. My preferred exit into Laos is early July, does that fit at all?.
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3 Nov 2012
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China plans - UPDATE.
Jimmy
Any chance of you emailing me rather than communicating through HU posts please? dsta3028@gmail.com I will be able to give more detail and put you on the mailing list - you will then be included in all stages of planning and have the opportunity give input.
The plan is to flip through western Europe to Czech Republic. From there travel south through eastern Europe to Turkey. Turkey to Georgia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan.
China with a guide, Laos, Thailand, maybe Cambodia, Malaysia and home to Australia - welcome to visit Australia yourself.
So far the plan is to cross China in a 35+ day trip. The costs are substantially reduced with the size of our group.
Time of entry is still being negotiated amongst our core group. So far the consensus is for a late June entry - feel free to join the discussion.
IF THERE ARE OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES PLEASE GET IN TOUCH.
Cheers
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Hi All, Well I did fancy riding Mongolia but it seems that Kyrgyzstan is much preferred. I have not done any research on the stans, I did a quick google maps route, it seems the shortest distance Calais to Torugart is 6800 km . I would like to take my time travelling but circumstances mean it might not be possible. Can someone give me an idea of roads, ease of travel, rough none rushed time scale from Khazakhstan to Torugart. Would two weeks be steady with time for a few days off?. I am happy to rush through Europe and Google maps says it 4000km Calais into Khazakhstan, happy to knock that off in under 14 days. This would mean one month to China, one month in China. My preferred exit into Laos is early July, does that fit at all?.
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Other interested parties
Got a response from Jimmy46 - thank you.
Tomos and richard107 - what are you guys up to?
Have you got something happening - if not are you still monitoring this HU post?
Trying to get feedback from members who contacted me expressing ingterest.
Cheers
David
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Hi all,
Can I ask how much you are being charged for, for transiting China?
How many days, is it still the 35 days in China that was mentioned earlier?
What is the cost for you to put temporary licence plates on the bikes adn cars/trucks, while transiting through China?
How much are you being charged to be provided with temporary driving licences ?
Can I comment on your route please,
Have you considered Calais ----> Keive (Ukraine)----> Naryn (Kyrgyzstan)
About 4200 miles. (6800km) ?
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Hi,
we are two bikers from Czech Republic. We planned trip from Prague to Hong Kong but with the costs of crossing China, we will be very glad to change it and join your group on China borders and do the China with you. We are flexible in dates, but has to May to July next year....so it seems very likely that we can join you, if you are still seeking more bikers
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