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Dont kid yourself there Ted. I cant see why my 650 with aftermarket seat and good fairing wont do as many miles a day as an 1150 on Russian highways.




Who would logically make a choice to lug around an extra 100 kgs for 2-3 months, for the sake of a one off 2 hour (or less) saving ???
Just my personal experience..

I've done 600 miles in one day on an XT600E in Brazil... Killed me and it took forever. On decent roads too.

Longest day I did on my DRZ400 was in Sudan.. 500 miles through the desert. Excellent road again but slow going and uncomfortable.

In comparison, I've done some 700 mile days on my Africa Twins and Tiger and they were much easier. Bigger seats, more torque, less vibes, better wind protection..


Fair enough, when it gets rougher, you eat up the miles far easier on a small bike.. On the easy roads though, it makes a difference having that extra 15 mph and touring seat.

I'm still with you though. I've never travelled on anything bigger than an XT600. For the reasons you state.
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Just my personal experience..

I've done 600 miles in one day on an XT600E in Brazil... Killed me and it took forever. On decent roads too.
Yes I did stress the aftermarket seat and good quality wind fairing on my post (first sentence even), which for me are essential adventure bike add ons for single cyl bikes. But with those changes, the modern 650s like XC and 690 can be just as good at mile eating as a 1200. I know this because I have eaten miles on both Driven the same roads from UK to Eastern Europe and UK to Morocco on 1200s and well modified 650s, and I dont see a huge difference in terms of all day cruising.

You dont know how good a 450 EUR Rayz seat is until 3 months later when you realise you never notice your arse complaining at all even after back to back long days on the highway.
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