Hi,
I'll be heading south from Quito towards Lima this Monday (14-Dec), making extra day stops at most cities to visit. Probably be in Lima by X-mas?. I will then continue south to Bolivia, Chile, Arg....

Any riders on the same road?

Just ahead of you. I dropped down through Banos, then followed new roadway to Limon, then single lane dirt and gravel up through nice jungle into Cuenca. Nice way to do it, though of course it took longer than I expected. Peru border was effortless, but the head and crosswinds plus dust in the desert was unexpected, so be prepared. Leave 2 hours after the border to get to the first substantial town, too: i arrived well after dark.

Should be a New Yorker on a Buell with a Frenchman on a GS somewhere near you by now. They´re headed north, but don´t sound eager to actually arrive in the states anytime soon. Say hello for me.

Mark

(from some dusty little town in Peru, headed for Huarez)

I´m in Banos now and will be heading from here toward Ushuahia. I´ll probably stop in Cuenca, but otherwise have no need to stop much as I´ve seen most of western South America previously.

I´m certainly amenable to travel and seeing places that others haven´t seen, but would like to get to TDF by New Years, or fairly shortly thereafter.

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Sounds like a sweet route Mark. Kinda tempted but I got another few days delay here in Quito with the paperwork and registration of the bike (6 days on-going, an that's with help of local friends!). Maybe Wednesday I'll be done and start heading south.

I'll be doing some visiting, probably 1 day on the road, 1 day visit? all depends. Thanks for the tips guys, keep it coming. You can also e-mail me directly at: samizmc@yahoo.com

Ride up
Sami

Hi

I moved from Quito today and am in Riobamba tonight Sunday, and riding to Ceunca tomorrow then south into Peru.

Motoman, I also would like to get to TDF by new years, but I also want to do Machu Pichu and the road of death in Bolivia, have you done these yet?

Cheers
TS

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Sounds like we´re on similar paths. Yes, I´ve done both Cuzco and Bolivia, as I lived in Bolivia and did most of western SA. I was planning on just going straight South through Peru and Chile as I really like southern Chile.

On the other hand, I haven´t yet seen Iguaçu Falls between Paraguay and Brasil. That´s probably not very realistic, just like your itinerary is quite ambitious as the Cuzco valley has much to see and Bolivia will take more than a day. Let me highly recommend three things:
1. When you go the Macchu Pichu, try to stay overnight so that you can be in the ruins before and after the train full of tourists overuns the place.
2. Go to Ollantaytambo on your way to or from Macchu Pichu as the massive stone work is impressive.
3. Go to Pisac market in the Cuzco valley. The stone work above the town is the tightest I´ve seen after going to many ruins. If possible, try to go during their market day.

I would consider returning to Cuzco, and going through Bolivia again, if I could do the falls in Paraguay, but it would be somewhat ambitious, to say the least, to do this in less than 17 days. I´m willing to give it a go, and being a little later to Ushuaia wouldn´t be the end of the world.

On a related note, you probably already know that the 2010 Dakar Rally will be from 1-17 January in Argentina and Chile. It might be fun to see a part of the race or ... alternatively, to avoid the traffic of the race.

motomon

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Mark and all,

How did you find out about the way from Baños to Cuenca? It sounds very interesting, especially since I´m on a dual sport, and if the single track isn´t too difficult. Did you (or anyone else) find a source for Garmin GPS maps? I have neither these nor a good map of South America. I tried to find at least a map in Quito and Baños, but no joy.

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Hi Motoman

Thnaks for the tips. I am about to head to Cuenco, power issues here at Riobamba delayed my day and I had to find an alternate internet source.

If you are interested I have the World MapV4, the base map that is all that is available for down here. I also have a paper map that covers the whole of the South, I got that from the AAA in San Diego.

If you are going to be in Cuenca this eveing, maybe we can meet for a ?

Cheers
TS

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Looks like you are a litttle ahead of me. I will leave here today or tomorrow. Yes, I would very much like the V4. I am not sure which version I have as I switched to a different computer and didn't load Garmin because I don't have the disks.

Maybe we can have that in Lima, if I catch up to you there.

Chris


quote=TravellingStrom;267860]Hi Motoman
If you are interested I have the World MapV4, the base map that is all that is available for down here. I also have a paper map that covers the whole of the South, I got that from the AAA in San Diego.
Cheers

TS[/quote]

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Most of the mileage is on obvious roads that appear on any map. As far as Limon, the road is freshly paved, therefore a total delight on any machine. After Limon there's about three hours of single lane dirt and gravel, but it's not difficult at all, at least in the absence of hard rains. This road showed on only one of my three bad maps. Head out of Limon asking directions towards Cuenca, and at the only possible place to go wrong (about 20 minutes), take the right fork past a little police guardhouse and gasolinera. That might be your last chance to confirm that you're on the right road. Beautiful country until the town before Cuenca, where it becomes humdrum again. Even in the lowlands, you're still at an altitude of 600 meters and above, so it gets rather warm but not blindingly hot.

I don't use a GPS. Mostly I rely on two of my ten sentences of spoken Spanish: "Por aqui se va a Cuenca?" You could explore endlessly down that way with a dual sport. Enjoy!

Mark

Hi Motoman, OK, maybe somewhere further down south, I am now in Mancora after entering Peru this afternoon.

I am making a beeline for Lima and Machu Pichu, I have found once again it is fun to be riding rather than the other fun I have when not riding


If you want dirt, head from Cuenca to Loja, I can tell you for a fact there is an unexpected 100km of it

Cheers
TS

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Hey
Dunno what sort of bike your on but the road from Loja to Macara is pretty cool - good tarmac, hairpin bends, mountain scenery + border crossing at Macara is easiest in S.A

Hi, I actually designed a Garmin route that went that way, but for some (stupid?) reason followed the road signs to Huaquilla, which took me on the dirt crap road, sounds like I had a different type of fun, the scenery was good, when I got a chance to look at it though

I hope you write up the border crossing for other people, because there is nothing but the crap one I went through, but I am using Wiki
Cheers
TS

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Hi If anyone is passing by or staying in Lima and want to get out a have a , send me a message giacomoolcese@yahoo.com

Ride safe,

Giacomo n' Pat

Love to have that with you Giacomo, or anyone else if you are around Lima for Xmas, especially if it is Cusqueña Red Lager.

Chris, motomon at pobox dot com

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