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4 Aug 2006
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Miah,
I got a transit visa at the border good for a week or so. It was a little hassle but not too much. I tried the consulate in Argentina and they told me to do it that way.
Bill.
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4 Aug 2006
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visa
I entered Paraguay a few weeks ago and got my visa in the Argentine town of Posadas. $45 single entry, $65 multiple. It took about an hour. I really enjoyed Paraguay, have fun!
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18 Aug 2006
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photo's
Hi Miah,
I did take a few shots )one even made it into a dutch newspaper), though only where the sand was hard enaugh to be able to "get moving" again, so not in the "soft sections". They would have been super-shots, me standing on the bike, hanging to the side to duck for thorny bush, full throttle, shifting down without clutch (or you,d stop dead)...
Yeah, you will love it!!!! after you did it.
Tell you the truth: after the first "bad stretch" I did not want to go on..... but I could not get myself to turn around to face that "bad stretch" again.... Strange how you refuse to see what,s ahead if you know what,s behind.
OK, sleeping: everywhere. Plenty of places for water (farm,s, ranger-stations, militairy-camps).
I did the 1000 km in three day,s. The first 800 is no problem at all. Many farm,s and even a few little towns.
More to the north, in the NP it,s empty. A lot of wild-life, but most of them you,ll see jumpimng across the road as you aproach. But I am sure if you stay a few day,s you can get some great wildlife shots. Puma, ocelot, linkx, all sorts of small rodents etc. Also many many birds.
The last 100 km (actually 100 in paragua and 50 in Bolivia) there are three militairy-stations which provide you with food and water. No fuel though!
Hope this helps.
Maarten
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18 Aug 2006
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Gran Chaco Route
Thanks again, Maarten! Just to be clear, there are several routes to Bolivia across the Gran Chaco. The main route, and the one you probably took, appears to be Asuncion > Filadelfia > Mariscal Estigarriba > Forti Infante Rivarola (border station) > Iboibobo (Bolivia) > Villamontes > N to Santa Cruz. Is this correct?
You also said that the distance without fuel is about 500Km, so I'd only need to carry maybe a couple gallons of gas. Is this correct? And was there much traffic, i.e. trucks, buses, military, farmers, or were you pretty much alone with the wildlife? You said there was water; was it bottled or did you filter the local source? And what time of year did you do the route and did you encounter much rain at that time? I really appreciate your first-hand info.
I expect to head west from Asuncion around the week of Sept 25, 2006, in case anyone is in the neighborhood and would like to join in the fun.
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25 Aug 2006
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Still looking for riding companion
I'll be leaving Rio de Janiero heading towards Foz do Iguaçu and Asunción around the week of September 25, 2006. I'm still looking for a partner to team up for the ride across the Gran Chaco in western Paraguay. Should be a great ride with lots of wildlife. Any takers?
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29 Aug 2006
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Chaco road? What do you mean "road"?
Hi Miah,
Yep, the route goes from Asuncion, north and ends in Boiuibe (Bolivia)
Her you will find the story, with all the info you need: http://www.maartensworld.com/EN%20Zu...0chacoroad.htm
Other trafic? Are you kidding? You are alone out there but there are two militairy posts.
By the way, here are two photo,s: http://groups.msn.com/maartensworld/...x.msnw?Page=40
On the website (which I do NOT make) Paraguay seems to be missing
Water needs to be filtered (no bottles).
I had reasenable good weather. It had rained a bit, but I think it made things better. The sand was a bit more compact.
Good luck!
Maarten
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29 Aug 2006
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Different routes in the Chaco
Thanks Maarten,
I had just read the Chaco posting on your web site last night. Great story!
Piecing together the information I have gathered from various sources (the Paraguay Consulate was no help at all, she said, "Road? What road?")... 2 years ago you appear to have taken a route different than what is now considered "normal." Your route: Asuncion > Filadelfia > Mariscal Estigarriba > Parque Nacional Enciso > Gral (border station) > Boyuibe (Bolivia) > N to Santa Cruz.
The now "normal" route is: Asuncion > Filadelfia > Mariscal Estigarriba > Forti Infante Rivarola (border station) > Iboibobo (Bolivia) > Villamontes > N to Santa Cruz. The new route doesn't appear to be much better: deep sand, thorn bushes, extreme heat, many water crossings, no traffic. The route you took has apparently been wiped off the map; perhaps a rainstorm washed out some critical passage. I will be there in the dry season, so the sand may be even MORE loose. I plan to carry 10 litres of extra gas.
Since the "new" route does not pass through Parque Nacional Enciso, do you recommend riding up to the park, then back south to the "new" route, just to see the park and the animals (provided I have adequate gas)?
Muchas gracias-
Miah
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