Hello Tom
Always best to stay away from these type of companies as they charge a premium over everything you could do yourself anyway. This is the reason that most people opt for Korea or Japan. There is more trade ,to and fro going on between the latter two than between Aus and Vladivostok.
In this case it would still be far cheaper to freight the bike from Aus to Europe; ride to Vladivostok and go back by train to Moscow (9 days ) and ship back from Europe (or leave it there for the next trip. next week I will see my old riding buddy who shipped to Vlad last year and ask him about the cost etc.
Cheers Richard

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Richard Wolters
Brisbane, Australia

Richard,

I have a couple of Japan shipping contacts I will contact during the week and ask them for pricing structure.

Will post up outcome here

Is this something you would potentially be interested in sharing costs is if we are both aiming for June?

I have been keeping an eye on some other threads too, and it seems other than this thread there is a possible 20ft container with a 4WD also heading that way similar time but doubtful how much extra room they would have (also no replies in that thread)

Thanks Walter, a great help
cheers

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Richard Wolters
Brisbane, Australia

Yes ofcourse I am interested in sharing- During the HU meeting in Brisbane I spoke to a guy who wanted to ship his 4WD - but did not get his name

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Richard Wolters
Brisbane, Australia

Is this the meet in Dayboro a few weeks back you are referring to? I was there also.

Anyway, will reply here once I can get some quotes.

Yes that is correct- at Dayboro

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Richard Wolters
Brisbane, Australia

I found an Australian company called Bikes Abroad, they quoted $800 each way to Busan, South Korea then advised getting a ferry to Vladivostok.

Ivan told me they had done this many times and his agent in Busan can arrange all the paperwork including booking the ferry which is about $400 US return.

At this stage I still think I'd be better to buy a bike in Ireland and either sell it at the end or store it.

There is a guy in Cork, Ireland called Martin (Wheatwhacker) who runs a FB page Motofeirme which facilitates foreigners buying bikes in Ireland.

Lots of good reports about him on HUBB and ADV.

Just more to consider...

Tom.

Hello Tom,
Interesting and worth considering, I know that there are many travellers going west -to east rather than East-West. Two things needs to be found out about.
1/ I already have a motorcycle in Europe(R1100RS with GS handlebars)which has served me very well during the last few years. ( To buy this bike was cheaper than the shipment to Vlad.)
I was born in Holland but only have an Australian passport so legally speaking I am a foreigner in my own country of birth. For this reason the bike is registered in a friends name (who helped me buying it) It is parked at his house and he looks after it for me.. However , transferring I my name is a problem as you need to show your Dutch drivers licence and need to have a registered address (all Dutch citizen are registered as a citizen of their local council, they even have to de-register and re re-register if the move from one place to another.
This is European law. If this guy in Cork knows away around it that would be great.(Ireland has the same laws- EU laws)
2/ Although you don't need a carnet in Russia we would need to know if the motorcycle details are stamped in the passport. A friend of mine got into trouble a few years ago because the passport and motorcycle permission papers did not match up. Wether it is possible to sell the bike on the other side or to dump to bike(if need be ) I am not sure of. To me it does not really matter if I ride east-west or the other way around. Altough I wanted to linger a bit in the European summer.
cheers

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Richard Wolters
Brisbane, Australia

Richard,

I will clarify with Martin regarding registering the bike.

I was of the understanding that if you had a visa to enter Russia that was all you need?

I haven't heard about having bike details in a passport before?

I am very flexible with direction and timing, my main issue is I'd prefer not to do long stretches solo for safety and logistical reasons.

My first preference is to hit Ireland late May and head east through France, Spain (family) nothern Italy, Croatia and get to Russia via Turkey and Georgia.

There is another group sending bikes via a shipping container to Vladivostok arriving in early July for 2 months my hope would be to join up with them fora couple of weeks and leave the bike in their container to be sent back to Ireland and either store it or sell it.

If the container falls through I guess I'd get the train back to Moscow and make a mad dash to Ireland. Dump the bike and head home.
That is the preferred plan but happy to be flexible.

Tom.

Hi Tom
I have found Mike and sent him an email
Not sure if the bike goes into the passport- for example in Turkey bit always does. My friend had a separate document for his bike but it had a different expiry date. When he tried to leave he found out it had expired. Of course the document was in Russian bit you sort of could make out the dates though.
The route is fine by me. This year I travelled the northern route to St Peterburg (train) zo south through the Stan's would be interesting.
cheers Richard

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Richard Wolters
Brisbane, Australia

For Russia all you need is your passport, visa and bike documents (v5) you get a temporary import document when you enter and hand it back in when you leave, I think it lasts for 3 months before you either have to renew it or leave the country. Also you should get insurance when you enter, although when we did it last year we did not and only asked once through your the trip for it ( gave the guy our English insurance details and after a while he got bored and moved us on ).
There is no stamp in your passport that links to the bike details, no carnet needed either.
This is the same for Mongolia if you are going to travel through it on the way.

Cheers


Mark
www.bamriders.com

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Mark
www.bamriders.com

Mark, thanks for that.

Richard - I'm am told the bike can be registered in my name at his address in Ireland. This can also be done in the UK.

I will be putting my name on a spread sheet located on post number 29 here...
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...2014-a-70639-2

Lots of people heading that way next year.

Tom.

Hi Tom
Spent some time with my mate who did a trip via Vlad 2 years ago. (Near lake Baikal broke his leg and had to abandon the trip) Cost to Korea was expensive and so was the ferry trip to Vladivostok. best is to start in Europe. perhaps buy a bike in Ireland as this can be done i have found out. In Bulgaria it is poss to get green card insurance. Perhaps a route would be to Turkey and the Stan's to Mongolia and than go either to Vlad for the sake of it and sell the bike there (if that is possible) or put bike and self on the train to Moscow and ride the rest back to W Eur. Cheers richard

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Richard Wolters
Brisbane, Australia

Hi there,

Glad to see this thread on here. I'm looking at the same trip, also from Sydney. I'm from the States, but traveling around Oz at the moment on a KL250 I bought here. Looking at shipping to Japan or Korea and ferrying across to Russia, doing some of Mongolia, back to Russia, Kazakhstan, Turkey, Europe.

Would definitely love to start this trip off with another person or small group just to get going, or meeting up periodically.

Thinking of leaving Sydney in May or June. I too was considering buying a bike in Russia (Ural sidecar anyone!?), or shipping my Sherpa.



Thanks,
Elisa

travelbugblues.wordpress.com
elisarw@gmail.com

Here's a thread about shipping costs that might be useful. I just wrote to this company asking for a quote. I'd prefer to fly the bike, but if it saves over $1,500AUD....

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...th-korea-58218