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I am a Norwegian citizen living in Indonesia planning to purchase a bike in Germany, registrar it in Germany, and ‘hit the road’.
Under these circumstances, I am not sure where or how I could obtain a carnet de passage, and what is the best way to do it. Would highly appreciate if you can give me some advise..
I learned that the German automotive association does no longer issue carnet for non Germans.
Will appreciate any advice/guidance I can get.
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Hi,

It would be helpful to know which countries you are visiting or planning to at least. You might get some help from the RAC in the UK but you have to know which countries you are visiting.

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Hi Miwi

You may be able to get the carnet from Norway. i know of an Australian who organised his carnet from australia for an Enfeild he bought in India. He organised the process before he left, and once he had the details to pass on, the Carnet was sent over. Maybe you could do something similar.

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I would imagine you will have to get your carnet in Germany. My experience as a New Zealander that bought and registered a bike in the UK was that I had to get the carnet issued in the UK - presumably the same for Germany?
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In order to register a vehicle in Germany you have to register yourself first as a resident. As a non-EU citizen this could be next to impossible. If you succeed, the ADAC will give you a carnet.

The other option are export plates, but they are only valid for one year and I have read in a few places that some countries will not let you in with these.

I suggest you register the bike in Norway.
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Thanks all for your answers.
I found out that i can issue the carnet in Norway if i have a Norwegian bank guarantee equivalent to the value of the bike.
I assume there is no other way around this, although i was naturally hoping to employ all my funds for the trip and make it as long as possible. A carnet will be subject to bond/bank guarantee in any case? or are they countries which require only a one time payment for the carnet? another question is, if i choose to travel without carnet i understand i will have to leave a bond at the entrance of some countries, equivalent to the motorcycle taxes in same country. Is that bond being paid back to you when you leave the country?
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Thanks all for your answers.
A carnet will be subject to bond/bank guarantee in any case? or are they countries which require only a one time payment for the carnet?
Yes, that's how it works. UK and one or two others do it like an "insurance" with a one shot payment - but it costs much more in the end. The advantage is you don't have as much money tied up during the trip. OTOH, with the bond method, when you get home you have a little money to get started again.

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another question is, if i choose to travel without carnet i understand i will have to leave a bond at the entrance of some countries, equivalent to the motorcycle taxes in same country. Is that bond being paid back to you when you leave the country?
To the first question, I can't think of one off-hand! Doesn't mean there aren't though. Generally they do REQUIRE you to leave the country with the bike - it's stamped into your passport that you entered with it, and you can't leave without it. They will also charge you much larger fees to enter without a carnet. NOT refundable.

Many countries don't require a carnet, many won't accept it - they have their own system, generally the passport stamp, or they just charge a small fee.

Those that do require a carnet often can't be entered at all without it.

Read the Carnet info page - link on left - for more details.

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