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31 Mar 2010
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Bonded Title and Traveling Through Central/South America
I am going to be riding from Arizona to Argentina and I lost the title to my KLR before I got it transfered over to me. So I am applying to get a "bonded title".
I assume that at borders I will need to present my title at times. Will this "bonded title" give me hassles?
I am wondering if I should start looking for a new bike to buy because I don't have the proper paperwork
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I have not had to present a title yet, though I carry mine. Registration is all they want. Furthermore, except at the USA border no one can read English (often it is clear that even Spanish is a problem), so no one will know anything about bonded titles or anything else. Just present documents with confidence and you will be fine.
As evidence, I offer the fact that I have been using an expired registration and expired licence (complete with big hole punched through it) for the 7 months of my current trip, and no one has questioned either. But I do carry real docs just in case.
Hope that helps.
Mark
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1 Apr 2010
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Thanks Mark, I do feel a little more assured that what I have will be accepted.
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1 Apr 2010
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I have no idea how AZ works but can't you simply get a duplicate title? I've not heard the term "bonded title" before. But if it looks like a title and has the VIN and plate number on it and your name, then its just a title to anyone you show it to.
I would make a GOOD quality color copy and use that day to day. Same with registration, license and passport too. Use copies when you can. Keep originals stashed safe.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey D
I have no idea how AZ works but can't you simply get a duplicate title? I've not heard the term "bonded title" before. But if it looks like a title and has the VIN and plate number on it and your name, then its just a title to anyone you show it to.
I would make a GOOD quality color copy and use that day to day. Same with registration, license and passport too. Use copies when you can. Keep originals stashed safe.
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The title wasn't transfered over to my name at the time of the sale (I'm an idiot). So the KLR is technically in the original owner's name who I can't get a hold of anymore
I can still get a bonded title to get it registered in AZ, but it wil take a lot of hoop jumping to get done.
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You don't have anything to indicate that you own the bike? How do you register it, insure it, prove ownership to cops at home....?
Again, you don't need a title. You need registration, and it's got to be in your name. Do whatever it takes to obtain this.
Hope that helps.
Mark
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