Quite few have managed to get a letter of "Non Objection" From the RAC

This is a quote from the RAC in 2013

"Issuing clubs normally only issue Carnets for vehicles registered in their country. However, Carnets may be issued for foreign registered vehicles from countries where there is no issuing club or if written permission is obtained from the home club. This is one of the rules of the convention. If you wish to apply through an alternative issuing club we would have no reason to refuse this, however we want to resolve your concerns and work with you to progress your application for a new Carnet.

Our Carnet team can contact you separately to grant permission if this is something you want to pursue."

This is from the ADAC - Note in our communications with the ADAC they have always been willing to provide us a Carnet - provided we get the letter of non objection

"First of all you have to Provide us with the non-objection, we would than be happy to issue you a Carnet"

Letter of Non Objection
If people were looking for a for a letter of non objection, I would state the reasons for wanting a carnet from the ADAC was due the RAC not providing the same financing options as the ADAC are, and that you would not be able travel under the only option, the insurance method, being offered by the RAC.

They would find it hard to refuse...

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If anyone has been refused a letter of non objection.

Could you please forward me the details, as I am putting together a compliant to be issued to a number of bodies. To go with the petition we have started.

https://www.change.org/p/fia-break-t...ter-rac-carnet


Looking at what the RAC is doing and how this is limiting the rights of UK Travellers, i would be surprised if we did not get a positive outcome from this.

There is no need for a solicitor right now, many questions can be answered by writing directly to the bodies, once we have their arguments / defence (if it is not a positive outcome) it may be the time for a solicitor.

It may be hard work but i will push through on this,

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Any more feedback on this? Hopefully some good news at some point in the future.

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Yep..I am sitting here holding my breath..it's like waiting for your favourite TV series to begin a new season.

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Frustrating... Great that they are discussing it, frustrating that I need to sort out a CdP in next couple of weeks.... If I pay the full price and then they change the rules I will not be a happy bunny.

Dave

June is my deadline..and i am not holding my breath either.

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The Carnet man at the RAC has said to me this morning "RAC have no plans to change the price mechanisms of the Carnet documents at this time".

So, no movement, means I've gone ahead and applied under the current pricing structures I'd be interested to see what, if anything, the Canadian announcement, that says a centralised European authority will be in place by the 3rd quarter of 2015, will mean for future travellers.

Dave

Hi,
I travelled 2002 - 2005 with two Carnet de Passage across Asia and India - two carnets, because after only 3 days I had a crash in Latvia with a drunken car driver (after midnight): broken legs, 7 months rehabilitation and then buy one more BMW R 80 GS, and of course one more Carnet.
Only in India I had problems with the custom - not for come into the country from China / Nepal, but only to get out to Pakistan across Wagah-border (Arimtsar / Lahore); there they have a very properly border procedure, even with daily parades, no exeptions possible:
They did not want to let me out of India, because my carnet was valid only one year, but my second start to travel (with a fine new Carnet) was in January 2003, 3 1/2 years before.
I told the custom officers, that of course this Carnet is still guilty, because I must bring back this "old" Carnet with a EU-custom stamp and only then I will get back my 3000 €. All my trying (also offering some money) did not help, I had to let back my bike in India - where it is standing and waiting for me until today!!
And back home in Germany, of course I did not get back my deposit money from the german auto-club ADAC - I had to wait and write and wait, etc. until 2013, then finally I got my money back, 14 years after I made the deposit of 3000 € to the ADAC (of course with no interest money!!)
Therefore never again with Carnet!! - also because I am no longer inhabitant of any country; I am a traveller for the coming ten years; the world is my home (and the roads and garages!).

Norbert Berentz
- actual in Pointe-Noire (Congo - Brazzaville), looking for an angolan visa!

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Slow progress on the Carnet issues but they are working on it, I am planning on having another call next week to discuss the progress and potential solutions:

The FIA has raised these issues with our member, RAC Motoring and Services. We have discussed a number of options with the RAC and I understand that these are under active consideration.

I should also note that we are reviewing aspects of the AIT/FIA Guarantee in an effort to ensure that it is not misinterpreted and that it appropriately reflects the FIA’s objectives to facilitate the movement of motor vehicles internationally.

update posted here: https://www.change.org/p/european-co...ter/u/10331171

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The RAC website states that they are stopping issuing Carnets altogether. Does anyone know who will be the issuing body for the UK? I'm off through Morocco, Mauritania, Senegal, and Gambia. I know I don't need one for Morocco but there seems to be some doubt about Mauritania and Senegal. They are on the list of countries where they are required but recent accounts from travellers suggest otherwise. Any information gratefully received.?

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If you search the thread (I know, it's 12 pages) then ADAC (the German AA) have been willing to issue Carnets to UK travellers for some time (and people on this thread have been positive about ADAC), up until now the RAC have stood in the way of this. The latest statement from the RAC now says that UK travellers are free to use other agencies Carnet de Passage | Application Form | RAC Driving Information | RAC. So, I guess, ADAC is the best place to go right now.

Dave

There should be a plan to change the whole system, how carnets are issued. I don´t know the exact details, and I´m not sure if there is already more recent information about this, but at least check post #10 on this thread:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...001#post505745

I am writing in response to the posts about the RAC and Carnet de passsage. I have been planing a trip to Africa and will need a carnet, which I have organised through ADAC in Germany. It works out considerably cheaper than with the RAC. I have previously used the RAC but it is getting expensive.
I called ADAC and they told me it is no problem for them to issue the carnet but they need a letter of non objection from RAC. I called the RAC and they agreed to issue the letter of non objection which was emailed to me the very next day and a papaer copy arrived in the post a few days later.
I downloaded the application forms from the ADAC website, filled them in, emailed the forms and copies of v5, passport, and letter of non objection so they could be checked. I received an email saying everything was in order and they started the process. I then had to send original application forms via the postal service to them ( so they have a signed copy).
I have paid the deposit and the fees and when the carnet is returned and discharged I will get back the deposit. (Dont forget it is vital the carnet is completed correctly at every border crossing, so there is no delay when returning it.)
My carnet is now on its way the whole process was fairly easy and straightforward and has only taken a couple of weeks to complete and I get the cash deposit back and not just 50% as with the insurance backed option from RAC, so in the long run save a lot of money over the RAC deal:

Hi all, many thanks for this info. I am flying from New Zealand to the UK mid 2016 to start an overland trip back to New Zealand via Africa, so a carnet is required for me. The big question for me from what I have read is will I as a non EU resident be able to get a carnet for a UK registered vehicle from Germany ADAC?? I can get an address in the UK as I have family here but I do not hold a UK passport.
Is anyone able to help with this??
many thanks
David

.... all I can say: Forget the carnet and all this bureaucracy around it.

There is a travellers life without carnet - and if you ever should really need it, you can get it in the country before - like in Khartoum / Sudan for Egypt ...

Just be a little bit adventurous - like travellers ought to be ...


Norbert - actual in Goa / India

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