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8 Jul 2005
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carnets, insurance, and ditching the bike
I'm in a bit of a unique situation for several reasons, but more or less here is the deal. I'm an American citizen living in Japan with a Japanese work visa and a motorcycle registered in Japan. I will be leaving in a month possibly headed across Russia/Mongolia/Europe, and at the moment I have no carnet (it doesn't seem to be necessary for these areas) and no international insurance for the bike. My main question is this: how difficult would it be to buy insurance for Europe at the border (or via internet in Russia), and is it possible for me to get a carnet after I leave Japan (if I decide to go to Africa)? I don't want to deal with obtaining a carnet right now, because I may not even need it. Also, my work visa will be expired, so I will be an American citizen with a Japanese registration. Does anyone have a guess as to how that affects getting a carnet or insurance? More importantly, what happens if I "wreck" my bike or it is "broken beyond repair" while on the road (it's a bit old)? Do I still have to pay an import duty if the bike is garbage? Basically, is there anyway to ditch the bike in transit without paying tons of money in fees (the bike is valued at $1,500US)? I hope this all makes sense.
Thanks a lot.
Take it easy,
ryan
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9 Jul 2005
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Hi Ryan,
An interesting case. This is what I would do. Have all the papers for the bike transcribed into English, and get an International Driver's Permit. You don't need a carnet in the countries you mention, not even in Europe. You can buy insurance at the borders. Once in Europe, say Germany, you can go to the ADAC and ask, if it is possible to get a carnet for Africa. By this time your Oldtimer will have racked up so many hard miles, that it would be wise to trash it. No big problem in Europe. Buy a new one for Africa, and try again for the carnet. You will, of course, need it there.
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11 Jul 2005
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Many thanks.
I do have an International Driver's Permit, although the legality is a bit questionable. I think I'll just pick up insurance along the way (probably a hassle?) and deal with the carnet on another bike if Africa is financially feasible. I guess my greatest concern was paying a high import duty on a bike that had become almost worthless after a long, hard trip. If I can let her R.I.P. somewhere in Europe that would be great. Thanks again.
Take it easy,
ryan
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