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Thanks for the reply motoreiter,

We will have around 2 months left from when we get to Magadan, the trip is going to take around 8 weeks all in but you never know

Anyway I now have all the answers thanks to all the replies.
If we are looking tight on time we will either renew at Mongolia or Kazakstan.

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our options would be to cancel the permit when we leave St Pete
Motoreiter has responded to the rest.

On this above point, a TIP is only cancelled by the vehicle going out of RUS, or written off following an accident following Police Certification of this. Until then it remains valid until expiry after which it becomes your liability to pay duty and obtain local registration - which is not allowed for holders of Tourist or Business Visas.

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Turning to your later post, - by exiting RUS while you sent the bike east you are saving some of your own visa's 90 days in 180. That is useful to you but not the bike although a quick half hour in Mongolia or Kaz starts the bike on a new 3 month TIP.
Whether those countries will need a visa from you or will permit a 'no-mans land' U-turn, I don't know.
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Whether those countries will need a visa from you or will permit a 'no-mans land' U-turn, I don't know.
You should certainly plan on having all necessary visas, the U-turn is a bonus if you can get it but you can't count on it, as it seems to depend on the whim of the border officials.
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Afterthought.
This would also mean you need a multi entry RUS visa - not a double entry which will be used up with StPete and later Magadan.
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We will have multi entry 12 month Visa's so no problem there.
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I meant for the other countries--Mongolia and/or Kazahkstan, etc.
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I've read on the forum that you can get the Mongolian visa at Ulan-Ude in Russia, and the Kazakstan one in Ulaan Bataar, will do a bit more reserch pre trip anyway.

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Thanks Tony for clearing that one up.
We are going to ride back across the old summer road, Vilyuisky Trakt, down to Ust-Kut, then if we have time and enough energy across the western part of the BAM.
Followed by dropping down to Mongolia, I know you have done these routes before (apart from the Mongolia bit, although that is just highway from Tynda) as have read many posts and articles of yours and Walters.
I estimate around 5 weeks to do this part of the trip maybe a bit less, does that sound resonable to you? If so we will have plenty of time to renew the TIP.

We are both experienced bikers on 690 enduros so terrain shouldnt (hopefully) be to much of a problem.

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I estimate around 5 weeks to do this part of the trip maybe a bit less, does that sound resonable to you?
5 weeks should be OK given good conditions.
Much depends on the weather, melt water levels, forest fires and general damp.
We had a good run but anything adverse could increase that exponentially.

From memory, but going the other way, our actual 'on the road' times for legs were about -
A. 4 days Magadan - Yakutsk, including Lena ferry, but not the west OSR from Kubeme.
B. 3 days Yakutsk- Mirny (allow 4 hours more to Lensk) on Vilyuisky Trackt
C. 3 days Lensk- Ust Kut on ferry barge. Going upstream takes longer, maybe 1-2 days more.
D. *5 or 6 days Ust Kut- Tynda via west BAM
E. 1/2 day Tynda-TSH

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Sibirsky Extreme Book Walter Colebatch motorcycle expedition journey siberia mongolia

Days are very long and nights short in summer that far north - at times there was no real dark but heavy twilight for 2 or 3 hours - so we kept moving up to 15 hours a day generally at a fair pace with few stops.

The TSH is really pure miles straight from the map. An average of about 45-55mph is probably reasonable for estimating times.

Recovery days were important, at least at my age, but I noticed 'young' Colebatch instigated many of them whereas, at times, I could/would have continued! We generally stayed put after each of the above legs for a similar number of days as we had spent on it, to get maintenance, repairs, rest and a Beer or two.

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Thanks Tony,
I'll get the book and go throught it, much appreciated with the information.
If you are around any of those areas this summer maybe meet up for a

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Is the TIP is now given for a three month period as standard at the border?

I thought that it was only for two weeks initially and had to be extended once in Russia? I hope I am wrong as this would certainly simplify things.

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Is the TIP is now given for a three month period as standard at the border?

I thought that it was only for two weeks initially and had to be extended once in Russia? I hope I am wrong as this would certainly simplify things.
The TIP is now usually issued for a maximum of 3 months IF your Visa allows you to be here that long.

If you only have (say) 2 weeks remaining on your Visa, they will (should!) only give 2 weeks to the vehicle you are bringing in.

Once in RUS, but before the TIP expires, you can get it extended to a year (i.e. a further 9 months) but, again, only if you can produce a Visa or Residency Permit that allows you to remain in RUS that long - and even though you may have a year visa, they will consider the 90 day limit condition on it.

This is all free of charge although at the busiest locations (such as the Moscow area offfice) you will save up to a day waiting on the queue list by quietly 'persuading' an officer to do it instantly. (2 or 3K roubles accidentally dropped on the desk usually does the trick!).
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