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Third party bike insurance a legal requirement when taking trips abroad?
To me, part of the beauty of riding a motorcycle is that it can be a relatively cheap means of transportation.
So it does rile me that insurance cost is so high.
I am based the UK, looking to travel around Europe for shorter periods of time throughout the year. In the UK I would normally go for a Third Party, Fire and Theft policy, but this would cover me in the UK only.
If I decide to take my bike abroad for a few months, is it a l egal requirement to have additional insurance for the bike? Apologies if this is considered a lame question but riding abroad is completely new to me.
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In France, and I think throughout the EU, you have to have third party.
Maybe it is time to change you insurance provider. I had 3rd party that covered me for europe, when i lived in UK.
Now Ilive in france I pay 86 Euros ayear, third party plus medical care for me and pillion. It covers me for all of the EU.
France is biker heaven, no road tax or MOT's either
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Now that sounds like a good deal, oldbmw... shame we do no have those in the UK
I did look at insurance from Carole Nash, which I think covers Europe, but again it is pricey. So I was hoping this was not a legal requirement.
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Well, I bit the bullet and went for a TPFT policy from Carole Nash. It includes 90 days of travelling within the European Union (at 30 days per trip) as well as UK and European breakdown recovery (x4 per year). This set me back £468.
The limit of 90 days is not ideal but it will be more than enough for now as I am merely starting to think about riding abroad.
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Ebike ( http://www.ebikeinsurance.co.uk/ ) give you 12 months Europe cover as standard on their policies, and are the cheapest I found.
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I looked at ebike, but they only give you European cover if you take out a full comprehensive policy.
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OK so far
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I switched to ebike when re-newing earlier this year. They had the cheapest of 3 quotes. The basics of my cover are --
TPFT cover for the UK and the whole of Europe; the countries are listed and, no, that list does not include Morrocco.
Cover throughout Europe, 365 days - no ringing them to let them know that I am going "abroad" (how antiquated is that routine?).
Up to 4 bikes can be on the one policy.
Free legal expenses insurance - I think this is in the first year only, to get you to transfer.
I understand that you can pay by the month, and not pay when you are not riding, such as in the winter (I don't have that facility).
And, I like this bit - the whole policy is controlled by me online. I can change it anytime and anyway that I want, interactively with this computer. I have done this once, and there were no costs and no charges, with new paperwork received in the post after a few days.
That web link is all you will get, until you are a customer -- all done online.
Their office address is at Aust, near the Severn Bridge, Gloucs.
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Originally Posted by TobyE
Well, I bit the bullet and went for a TPFT policy from Carole Nash. It includes 90 days of travelling within the European Union (at 30 days per trip) as well as UK and European breakdown recovery (x4 per year). This set me back £468.
The limit of 90 days is not ideal but it will be more than enough for now as I am merely starting to think about riding abroad.
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Carole Nash provided one of the two higher quotes that I got earlier this year when re-newing; nothing against them, they were simply more expensive.
Oh yes, nearly forgot, they had this limit thing about how many days you can ride in Europe without letting them know (and potentially paying a supplement).
I can't remember who gave me the other higher quote.
Incidentally, I have used Honda's own insurance a few years ago; it was very good (and keenly priced) when they first came out with their scheme and very popular with Honda owners - then slowly I realised that they are, in fact, a "broker" for another of the large insurers.
I "innocently " enquired about how I would get insurance if I changed my bike from a Honda to some other make and they were not bothered; so long as I stayed with "Honda Ins" I could have any make of bike!!  = Marketing once more.
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If you intend doing more travelling, you might want to consider which bike to use. In the UK. BMW insurance is very cheap for older models. These are fine throughout europe providing you stay on surfaced roads...... off tarmac they may not be yout first choice. Japanese sports bikes with lots of plastic seem to attract higher premiums.
Another thought, maybe insure your bike here TPFT in France, as well as in the UK tpft, if you can have the use of a French address.
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Originally Posted by TobyE
Well, I bit the bullet and went for a TPFT policy from Carole Nash. It includes 90 days of travelling within the European Union (at 30 days per trip) as well as UK and European breakdown recovery (x4 per year). This set me back £468.
The limit of 90 days is not ideal but it will be more than enough for now as I am merely starting to think about riding abroad.
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Thats a fortune! I pay £178 for 3 bikes! TPFT Carole Nash.
Get back to them.....
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In the U.S., insurance rates are hard to compare between people. They are based on a number of factors, including:
1) The insured's driving record: points (tickets) and accidents,
2) previous claims: for instances of damage, vandalism, theft, etc.
3) one's local: cities, counties, states all having different amounts of vehicle theft, accidents, vandalism, etc. hence higher rates
4) ones coverage limits - 3rd party medical and liability coverage. Someone who wants to be indemnified for 100,000 per incident is certainly going to pay less than someone who wants to be indemnified for 300,000 or 500,000 (or whatever the numbers are you work with).
If one is talking about comprehensive coverage (collision, theft, fire and other damage), then
1) the deductible amount
2) value of the bike(s) - newer, bigger more expensive than older, smaller
3) one's overnight parking situation (locked in a garage, out in the open air, etc.)
I'm guessing that in GB you have a similar set of factors the companies use to determine your premiums, but nowhere do you guys talk about any such things, so it seems to me it would be really hard to know whether a quote of 468 is too much money to be paying. And a quote of 178 for 3 bikes may be totally insufficient coverage for someone else.
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