I hope that you enjoy your trip, I'm in SE Asia at the moment and it is quite good fun, but a word of advice, don't get old or you can wave bye bye to these insurance companies. Presumably because when you are old you take less risks, or something. Ride safe regardless.

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Ha. On that cheery note, for age 63, Cheap Worldwide Travel were quoting almost double the price of Navigator. I think I'll go with Navigator.

Hi all

I've discovered the following, so I thought an update might be useful.

The biggest payout for emergency medical expenses in insurance history was £1.8 million. So don't get seduced into paying more for a policy offering cover up to £5,000,000 which is common these days.

Navigator had a massive payout last year as a result of a motorcycle accident and so their underwriter has changed their Silver and Gold policies to limit the use of motorcycles on a trip to no more than 14 days! Not so useful then! If you check out their complete wording for these policies you will find it noted in the small print on page 9 under 'Leisure.' So be careful.

The good news is that Navigator has introduced two new policies which they have called Navigator Standard and Navigator Plus, which have a different underwriter. These do accept long-distance motorcycle travel and have only the standard restrictions - you must have a full licence, wear a lid and stay on road (You can get off road insurance for an extra premium but only on bikes up to 250cc). Pillion riders must also hold a full UK licence. These policies don't appear to come up on their website if you ask for an online quote. You can check them out, though, by going to the bottom of their home page, clicking on the 'policy wordings' link and then again on the 'Navigator Standard' and 'Navigator Plus' links.

1Stop Travel Insurance now only cover motorcycles up to 125cc.

For an 'older' motorcyclist like me, I couldn't find anything much under £500 for nine months (that was Navigator again) - most were a lot dearer. We seem to scare them off for some reason. Too damned irresponsible.

Happy travels.

Choice is exceptionally limited, especially for longer trips.

I'm finding that for a month in morocco, then 3-6 months in South America that it's much cheaper buying to separate single trip policies.

For a someone who's fit and healthy and in their late/twenties early thirties, some of the quotes are rediculous. A few were in the region of £500+ Navigators most basic one was cheapest at around £170, but if a pillion can't claim then it's useless.

The search continues.

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Got excited - checked Navigator... I'm 55, just want 11 months single trip to Asia, and it quoted £547 for a basic policy.

As its really only the medical evacuation that's important to me, Global Rescue look tempting at just over £400 for a year.

They advertise on HUBB - anyone had good/bad experience with them ?

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Have you tried Trailfinders?

They seem pretty straight to me, and I'm in the process of making a claim, so maybe I'm speaking too soon.

Motorcycling is excluded on their standard policy, but they will add large capacity bikes for an extra premium. We took originally took out a 5-month policy to cover worldwide travel excluding the USA, and it cost us £770 for the two of us (ages 52 and 62).

I am reading this with interest. I too am sorting insurance for next year and have a thread to update on the general section.

I approached Worldwide but was instructed to place my search in the international residents section even though I am a UK resident. I have been out of the country travelling for most of a year and this may be why. I then got a huge premium, so disregarded them. If I use the Uk resident section I get the same price as the OP for a year. However looking at the policy wording for single trip the Policy feature table shows; Maximum period per trip if aged under 69, 94 days. This seems strange when cover is requested for a year.

So I think I will phone them again on Monday and ask some more questions. This whole insurance issue is a minefield.

Tried InsureandGo? Different underwriter and have policy that covers existing conditions if that is necessary. The more conditions covered the higher the premium.


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A very helpful thread - thanks to all.

Having trawled the options i have basically come down to Navigator and/or Global Rescue.

Has anyone explored the differences in any detail?

From what i can see Navigator provide 'normal' travel insurance. They will pay repatriation expenses but i am not clear on how this works in practice if i am in a bad way in the middle of Africa. I have a Delorme Inreach so perhaps they can notify the insurer who takes it from there (or is it down to me to get sorted which i may not be in a position to do).

Global Rescue give me confidence they will come and get me and take me back to a UK hospital which is fine, but don't cover medical costs which could be an issue if i just need in country treatment. I also have concerns about the legal indemnity you give them when you sign up (appears you could end up paying their US legal fees - unlikely to be a good thing).

All insights greatly appreciated.

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Andy (Uk citizen, riding through Africa)

Hi,

As I just bought my insurance yesterday…..

Someone mentioned InsureAndGO. I have used them 2 years ago for our trip to Mongolia… HOWEVER, they cover bikes up to 125cc only. If you crash and get injured, riding a bigger bike, the insurance may say this invalidate the policy. You must be VERY careful regarding the wording and what is or not covered as permitted activities. I go with the principle that if the insurance can find a way of not covering you and fobbing you off, they will! So I read the little letters on contracts!

This time as we have two 250 enduro bikes, I bought a SILVER MOTORBIKE policy with Navigator, after a quick email exchange with Richard (for our 3 months trip round Russia and central Asia). The standard SILVER policy does cover only 15 days biking. Another policy (I forgot which one) covers only roads where a normal car can get through… the MOTORCYCLE dedicated one covers off-road as permitted activity, any CC etc… however, it is more pricey (475 pounds for the 2 of us for about 3 months!)…

I did not do too much research this time round, there may be other brokers offering coverage, as adventure motorcycling is becoming more popular…

Cheers,

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I've gone with Navigator Standard policy. They cover all activities on any size bike, except off road and 4x4 tracks. So any road the locals use in their cars is OK. I didn't bother with the specific m/cycle policy because you pay an extra £400 to cover riding gear, panniers etc. I decided no to worry about that. £2 million of medical cover would be all you ever need, especially outside of the USA. So at £628 I was happy enough. I'm 64 and have a medical condition (asthma) which cost me another £10.
I'm happy now.

Geoff

I have just found P J Hayman Insurance in Hampshire
02392 419 070
They were fine about age, duration and even the motorcycling.
We have lots of trouble elsewhere (Nomads want younger people for instance) and so we are using PJ Hayman

Can others assist please

We will be 2 up travelling for 2 plus years (Australian) 51/45 starting in SA and trying to sort through all the insurance side of things. Am I correct in

Insurance for the bike itself - no one will cover or provide coverage on the bike for damage/ stolen etc while overseas and if they did the price would be ridiculous

Travel Insurance - Now I'm classing travel insurance as that insurance offered in case I miss a flight, or my luggage ends up in some strange land or my camera gets stolen

Medical Insurance - insurance that will cover my medical expenses while in another country where repatriation is not required, i.e. tooth filling etc

Rescue / Repatriation Insurance Typically where we've had an accident and need to be collected/ transported to a hospital and where if deemed necessary to then be flown back to your home country for medical treatment.
I think im correct in saying that this insurance almost always includes medical insurance as mentioned above. I know it also includes rescue if you've been abducted but my Risk Assessment of that occurring is low.

Local Insurances - these I understand to be totally separate and on a country by country basis. Still not 100% what each one will cover us for but I know we need to pay them

Primary things to be aware of in the policies That the use of a Motorbike is covered over (typically) 200cc.

That you are covered for the roads you are travelling on, again I get the impression that the majority of policies discussed are for On Road (that being one which a car travels on. Could be a pot holed dirt track but if a local drives along it then its On Road..... still need to confirm this though)

That my passenger is covered for all the same things I'll be covered for


Please can anyone let me know if my breakdown is correct. I think I get confused reading these posts, where people talking Travel Insurance mean Rescue etc etc. I understand different countries name things differently.

Now to work through all the different policies. For us one thing I did mention on another post was that we currently pay $2500 per year health insurance so when travelling this will cease, so we should complain to much with paying whats asked and coming back to Aust the health system is of good quality (in most cases) and free

I'll keep updating my post of my experiences with companies.

I can answer a couple of these for you.

Insurance for the bike itself -You are correct in thinking you cannot get world wide cover for your bike, it has to be bought country by country or in some cases a group of countries or entire continents such as a green card in Europe or a comessa in parts of Africa. These policies which are generally third party only are looked upon as keeping you legal and for avoiding problems with the police, their value as actual insurance is often questionable.

Travel Insurance -You might get a travel insurance policy for the things you list but the cost for the length of your trip might be more than any loss incured, most people don't have it.

Medical Insurance -Rescue / Repatriation Insurance The most important of all and for Brits is usually combined, other nationalities this might be different. As you seem to be aware make sure it covers you for motorcycling and with a capacity limit which covers your for the bike you are on. The other things to ask are do they require you to have a fixed return date and return ticket and can it be renewed on the road, these last two can reduce your options even further and are a pain in the ass, your passenger will require their own policy probably from the same company, I have not heard of this type of policy that covers couples.

Local Insurances - Not quite sure what you are refering to here but you might be confusing with the first question local vehicle insurance, apart from that I know of no other local insurance.

Something to bear in mind is that in some countries such as India there are excellent medical and dental services availalble for less than the excess on your own policy, if the treatment you need is not for something major it can be easier and cheaper just to pay for it out of your pocket.

Mark, thanks for the reply and you are correct, when I was talking about insurance for the bike I was talking about coverage for damage to the bike or if it was written off, which Ive gathered is not practical..... as opposed to Bike Insurance, which I was calling local insurances (Third Party etc ) and as you mention I gather in allot of cases the cover is questionable and more likely simply a contribution to their xmas fund.

Having to work all weekend but being with no one around my floor is covered in PDS documents and I have a little spread sheet going. Couple of points Ive learned that are relevant to us

Most Policies need a return date and wont let you renew while out of Aust

Most of the policies Ive reviewed so far (National Bank, WN, QBET, Fast Cover, Aust Post, DU Insure, Go Insurance (underwritten mainly by Lloyds, Allianz and QBE)) dont have restrictions on motorcycle use as long as i'm licensed in my country of residence

For us, we dont need all the extras, i.e. mugging, loss of passport, disruption to travel plans, car hire, flight cancelations, loss of luggage etc and will take these as they come. We are mainly after, Overseas Medical expenses including repat etc which in most cases even for Basic cover is Unlimited. One exception is WN where if we choose their Standard policy (the one without all the extras mentioned above) they only offer 10,000,000 (still allot though).

A point to note is that in the majority of PDS's Pre Exisiting medical can be anything you have been treated for from 60 to 90 days prior to leaving .... so stay healthy for a couple of months before and you wont get caught out

Best Ive come across so far for us out of Aust is Go Insurance (underwritten by Lloyds) their Go Basic for 365 days 2 people Sth America is $777 Aust (15.01.2017) .... just need to confirm renewing.

Anyway i will bore you all some more as I continue to read and review.... and always read the PDS for yourself