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Any one know when Air Canada might restart their shipping program. With vaccination rates fairly high in both Canada and Europe, you'd think it would be soon. I'm hoping to ship a bike to Europe in November (ideally to Madrid or Lisbon).
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Any one know when Air Canada might restart their shipping program. With vaccination rates fairly high in both Canada and Europe, you'd think it would be soon. I'm hoping to ship a bike to Europe in November (ideally to Madrid or Lisbon).

Don’t hold your breath. Air cargo in general is very hard to come by and price multiples of what it was pre Covid.
BA are just about to furlough all, every single one, of their staff as governments continue to clamp down on travel.


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As of our info, this year is very questionable (not going to happen).

We managed to get one client on the plane in April from Canada to Europe, no combo deal of course.

I am not sure if the volumes will be back up to 2019 levels that they will be into it this/next year.

If you plan to freight in November we will have sea freight in November for US/CAN clients from LA/NY-Hamburg so you can get in touch for a quote over PM or over email: info@lobagola-mototours.com

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Any one know when Air Canada might restart their shipping program.
Likely not until they get their operations (their quantity of flights) back to within 10% of what they were prior to the pandemic.

Air Canada was able to offer the good deals in the past because they had a fair amount of empty cargo space on flights they operated DAILY to many European cities. They are now operating far fewer flights - sometimes only 2 a week to places that they used to serve daily - but the demand for air cargo shipments has not dropped off the same way the demand for passenger seats has.

My guess: MAYBE next year. Certainly not this year.

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Likely not until they get their operations (their quantity of flights) back to within 10% of what they were prior to the pandemic.

Air Canada was able to offer the good deals in the past because they had a fair amount of empty cargo space on flights they operated DAILY to many European cities. They are now operating far fewer flights - sometimes only 2 a week to places that they used to serve daily - but the demand for air cargo shipments has not dropped off the same way the demand for passenger seats has.

My guess: MAYBE next year. Certainly not this year.

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Makes sense. We can always keep our fingers crossed but I expect your timeline is the most likely


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Good to know. I’d heard that container shipping was backlogged. Might take another year. Will look at renting a bike locally instead

At least travel is restarting. Air Canada will have ‘approved’ flights to Italy starting on July. And Canada just announced vaccinated people don’t need to do the hotel quarantine anymore.

I expect the rules will vary a lot from country to country for the next while. But at least there are now some options


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Good to know. I’d heard that container shipping was backlogged. Might take another year. Will look at renting a bike locally instead

At least travel is restarting. Air Canada will have ‘approved’ flights to Italy starting on July. And Canada just announced vaccinated people don’t need to do the hotel quarantine anymore.

I expect the rules will vary a lot from country to country for the next while. But at least there are now some options


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Yes the announcement was made but there is a show stopper involved
If you have been vaccinated with what ever Canada is using then you are good to go. If not then you go strait to the Q hotel and not pass Go! People working in different continents need to be aware of this if they want to come home
Sounds like the heath officials are quite bias and Minister Tam needs to find another job Whatever vaccine is good for WHO is not good enough for Canada
I am Pissed I am vaccinated with Cinovac and it is not on the list of approved vaccines approved in Canada
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I am Pissed I am vaccinated with Cinovac and it is not on the list of approved vaccines approved in Canada
Don't interpret that as suggesting that Canada thinks Sinovac is a bad vaccine.

Most likely, it's not on the Canadian approved list because Canada never purchased that vaccine for use in Canada - hence, there was no reason to approve it.

I suspect that as time goes by (meaning, over the coming winter) and large amounts of trustworthy data become available on the efficacy of various vaccines, countries will ACCEPT vaccination certificates for vaccines they have not personally approved. Likely the WHO will take the lead on this matter, providing member nations with lists of the vaccines that have been proven to be effective.

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Don't interpret that as suggesting that Canada thinks Sinovac is a bad vaccine.

Most likely, it's not on the Canadian approved list because Canada never purchased that vaccine for use in Canada - hence, there was no reason to approve it.

I suspect that as time goes by (meaning, over the coming winter) and large amounts of trustworthy data become available on the efficacy of various vaccines, countries will ACCEPT vaccination certificates for vaccines they have not personally approved. Likely the WHO will take the lead on this matter, providing member nations with lists of the vaccines that have been proven to be effective.

Michael
its all fine and dandy if your vaccination is on the approval list But not everyone has the option for what is on the list. Take what I can get is my option
and if I have to go back to work in Ca,nada then I Have to pay for the Q hotel
Not Fair there are 40 or 50 thousand Canucks abroad working that may not have a option on a Canadian approved vaccine and we pay taxes also.
I wrote to the Canadian Consulate in Bogota asking about Inoculations for Canadians living in Colombia they Replied and said we are not supplying vaccines for Canadians Abroad I was Flabbergasted.
maybe is just Colombia I dont know
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Tohellnback:

You have several choices available to you:

1) Get vaccinated (again) in Columbia with a vaccine that is on the Canadian government approved list.

2) Wait until the Canadian government publishes a policy that addresses acceptance of vaccines other than the ones approved for use in Canada. Canadian newspapers have reported that the government is working on this matter now, and expects a policy to be published sometime in July.

3) Come to Canada, go through the quarantine protocol, then get vaccinated here (free of charge) with a vaccine on the Canada-approved list so you don't encounter the same problem again in the future.

From what I have read, the efficacy of the Chinese Sinovac vaccine is considerably lower than the efficacy of the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna), especially against variants (e.g. Delta). So it is in your best interests to protect yourself with a mRNA vaccine, especially since you will be travelling between continents, and especially because protection in Columbia might be in doubt due to the use of less-effective vaccines.

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Issue with some of the other vaccines is they have not published their clinical data. Unclear why the WHO approved them. Maybe they are bending the rules as it’s a pandemic. Normally it’s important to have the data peer reviewed.


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