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Customs at EZE ??
Hello all.... My first post...please be gentle...
I'll be flying my (crated) 12GS from the US into Buenos Aires (EZE) in late March. Heading down to Ushuaia, then north to Deadhorse. Has anyone cleared their own bike through customs at EZE? My shipper has informed me that his contacts in BA want an arm AND a leg to broker Customs at that end. I thought that it was required that the owner clear customs with the bike for a temporary/personal entry.....I'll not have a Carnet in place... Thanks in advance!
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check under South and Central America Forum
Hey there,
You should check out the forum South and Central America and Mexico under the thread:
Shipping Bike to Brazil or Buy New Bike
some advice there on who to go with in Buanos Aires...good luck
we're trying to ship ours to Brazil, sounds like that might be fun as well.
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Thanks, I emailed Dakar Motos last week.....They were my first choice. No reply yet ( I think they might be moving)...Thanks for the tip, I'll post to the board when I get this figured out....
Suerte,
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Eric:
From where you get the crazy idea than we are moving???
We are very busy here and have hundreds mails to answer. By the way you are coming on 26th March. More than 4 mouths forward. In few days I will reply all your doubts.
In advance I tell you than you don’t need a broker Customs at this end. And you don’t need a Carnet.
Saludos.
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Javier,
Thanks for your answer. Yes, it's 4 months from my departure but I am trying to get the hard (and expensive) things like shipping figured out now. I will look forward to your reply.
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Eric
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Dont know if things have changed, but a few years back I did that & was no problem. Took 4 hours to get the paperwork done & they were very helpful, one of the officials even helped me uncrate & reassemble it.
I had to pay for storage & that wasnt cheap - bike had been in the customs for 36 hours before I caught up with it.
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Hello all.... My first post...please be gentle...
I'll be flying my (crated) 12GS from the US into Buenos Aires (EZE) in late March. Heading down to Ushuaia, then north to Deadhorse. Has anyone cleared their own bike through customs at EZE? My shipper has informed me that his contacts in BA want an arm AND a leg to broker Customs at that end. I thought that it was required that the owner clear customs with the bike for a temporary/personal entry.....I'll not have a Carnet in place... Thanks in advance!
Eric
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... Check this out, from my arrival July 2007
You will need: -
- Your national drivers licence and an International Driving Permit (IDP
- Argentinian 3rd party insurance, acquire from
ATM (Assitencia Total de Motoristas), Sarmiento 930, 3rd Floor
Buenos Aries – Tel +54 11 4394 1750
Mon-Fri Only, this is downtown so do it the day before the bike arrives
- National registration document and title to your machine
UK reg docs are not regarded as ‘titles’ take your original sale invoice
- Passport
- Carnet de Passage if you have one for countries you intend to visit other
than Argentina
- Basic packing list – Bike reg# ‘X’, riders clothes, service spares etc,
avoid excessive detail
- Screwdriver (Phillips), swiss-army knife
- 12v compressor or foot pump, tyre pressure gauge,
- A litre or two of fuel if your bike has been shipped with a totally drained tank.
Plus whatever other ‘rebuild’ tools you need
if they are not packed with the bike.
- A pick-up truck and driver if you need to recover your crate (Dakar Motos?)
- GPS or a map book, available from Shell and other gas stations.
- At least 500 Argentine Pesos, mix of denominations
1 – Go to the freight terminal (Terminal de Cargas) at Ezeiza airport and locate the office of the airline that has shipped your machine. They will provide you with the landing documents for a fee. I paid ArPs150 ($50) which I believe is typical, if not standard.
2 – From the airline office go across to the freight ‘Depositorio B’ and locate the office for ‘Particulares’. You need to start at the Aduana (Customs) Office 2 where they will first try to get you to produce a carnet-de-passage, although this is not strictly required it makes life easier for the customs people. A little charm and politeness will help you to start the process for a temporary tourist import, an initial form is filled out for you.
3 – Your bike must be located ‘in the system’ so you will be transferred to the Terminal de Cargas staff inside the warehouse (not customs) who will get a warehouse address within the Depositorio and reference number for you. It can take an hour or two for this to happen after landing.
4 – Go back to customs administration (office 2) who will then complete their internal documentation before referring you to a customs agent (office 3), who is responsible for checking that what you say you are bringing in is really what is in the crate (engine and frame numbers).
5 – They will ask you to make copies of any documents they feel necessary at the Terminal de Cargas office. You WILL go back and forth for an hour or so getting each box ticked, be patient (or use Dakar Motos). Lunch and other normal interruptions will add delays that you are powerless to deal with. There is a canteen and snack facility by the airlines offices if you need to kick your heels for an hour.
6 – Physical examination of the bike. Make sure you know where your frame and engine numbers are located. This is where you will need the screwdriver and swiss-army knife.
7 – If all goes well you will get permission to uncrate and ‘rebuild’ your bike. You will have to surrender you passport to the Agent and are not allowed to leave yet. Keep the bar-coded Terminal de Cargas label from the crate (swiss army knife)
8 – Return to Office 3, where they will give you the near-completed import document folio and your passport. You may not leave yet.
9 – Go back to the Terminal de Cargas office. You will need to pay ‘storage’ which sounds daft if the bike only arrived that day, but it encompasses ArPS220 ($70) for the fork-truck which moved your ‘heavy-load’ and ArPs70 ($30) because it is also classed as ‘dangerous’ cargo. You can’t fight it pay it, but you can use a credit card if you need to.
10 – Take your receipt back to office 2, and then office 3 as instructed, where the final stamps will be added to the folio and the agent will issue the temporary import document. I had to sign on about 20 dotted lines at this stage. All being well the Agent will shake your hand and wish you ‘suerte’ … luck!
11 – You can go, but only when the security guard in the warehouse has checked your receipt and taken a copy.
12 – Head to the exit gate as directed, about 50 meters from the Depositorio warehouse, here is the final check from a customs Agent. He is looking for an itemised exit receipt and the label from the crate. If you have lots of loose gear, such as tyres and camping stuff strapped on, he/she may well question you, don’t lose your cool tell him everything is ‘juntos’ (together). I am told people have been turned around here, so at the risk of repeating myself be calm and you should be able to ride out
13 – Except that is for getting out through the parking area barrier without paying for parking … I did, but I’m not entirely sure how!
14 – There is a gas station just in front of the terminal buildings if you circulate back into the airport, the next one is 10kms towards BsAs, but you need to come off the highway at a junction to reach it.
15 – You will need 1peso and 40 centavos in tolls for the auto-pista to get back to downtown BsAs if that’s where you’re heading - 2007 prices.
Top-Tips
Whatever happens be polite, be charming and let the bureaucrats you deal with understand that this is a great opportunity for you to visit Argentina, that you are a decent friendly person and wish to co-operate. Customs have their job to do, they will let you through if your stuff is in order, if you’re a real charmer they will help you along.
Do not lose your cool and get ‘antsy’ as each new apparent ‘hurdle’ presents itself.
Do not offer any document not asked for, especially your packing list (although you should keep one to hand), you may get a temporary bike import certificate without a hitch and end up paying duty, or the even more complicated ‘agregado’ (added value duty) on spark-plugs, tyres or other spares you are carrying.
Do not underestimate how much time a ‘smooth’ import process will take, 3-4 hours for paperwork and an hour of re-build time and you’re ahead of the crowd, budget all day for a morning flight arrival.
You’ll need to be hell of a packer to get your crate on the back of the bike!
It is entirely possible to get the bike out on your own and intensely satisfying to do so, but it’s not for the hopelessly fainthearted.
Dakar Motos will charge you for their services, but may save you heartache and additional costs if they can help you avoid additional storage charges and duty payments on tools, riding gear, camping gear and service spares.
Dakar Motos, Carlos Tejador 1379, C.P.1604CLA Florida, Vicente Lopez
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WOW....Thank you John !!
I am in touch with Dakar Motos, they will be a huge help I'm sure. Sandra tells me that I must purchase insurance in Argentina, even though companies here in the states say that they can insure me for all the countries that I am planning on riding through (other than Colombia, Nicagarua and Mexico). Your comments would be appreciated.
Thanks again, is there a full write up of your trip somewhere?
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Quote:
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Sandra tells me that I must purchase insurance in Argentina, Eric
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... Absolutely Sandra knows all.
... My friendly freight agent held my bike back a couple of days in UK to give me time to get downtown and purchase a basic 3rd party policy before my bike arrived, there are no theft or accident policies for gringos. I reckoned that to be cheaper than EZE storage.
... Annual policy from the place in the 'long post' cost me ArPs360 ($110), they split it 10 ways, I just paid for 6 months, I'll add the remaining four payments if I need to, I imagine a lot pay 2 or 3 months and have moved on.
... Go back after about five days to pick up the policy documents if you can, there's a nifty little plastic ID card which saves producing fluttering receipts at checkpoints ... and there are checkpoints!
... I'm told in Chile you can purchase 'Mercosur' insurance, I'll check it out in the new year.
... Happy travels
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