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Shipping motorcycle from Brazil to Dakar by airplane
During my trip Round The World 2013 described here http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...r-2013-a-67083 I have to ship the bike from Brazil to Dakar (Senegal).
I found here on HU an address of a freight forwarder in Rio de Janeiro (Perseus - Rua dos Andradas 96 SL 304 and 305 - Centro - Rio de Janeiro - (Marcos Soares (55) 21 2108-4859) - www.perseus1.com.br), but the website is non-existent.
Does anyone have information but also other shippers between Brazil and Dakar?
thanks
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brazil has a bad rep for shipping might be best to head down to BA
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brazil has a bad rep for shipping might be best to head down to BA
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Even BA (Buenos Aires?) has a bad rep for shipping.
Also I come from Chile and I go to Dakar: I do not want to stop in Argentina and then jump Brazil.
I need to find a plane for the bike from Brazil; if nothing is strange: the Atlantic is closer between eastern Brazil and West Africa.
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so just go for it and post up your findings for us all to read . I also think you will find distance is of little importance .ie I can ship a bike from england to suriname for the same price maybe even less than panama to colombia
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so just go for it and post up your findings for us all to read . I also think you will find distance is of little importance .ie I can ship a bike from england to suriname for the same price maybe even less than panama to colombia
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I do not understand your sentence "I just go for it." :confused1:
Regarding the price of flights, I know that they are very variable, but for me is not so much a question of cost: the flight must be, then how much is a subsequent question and, in part, less important.
Of course, if I arrive in Brazil and I can catch a flight to Dakar, I will post here what you find. 
But I do not start even if I do not know Italy BEFORE I find a flight to Brazil to Dakar. I'm leaving Italy for my RTW only if I already have contacts with all the shippers I need for the 4 flights during my RTW: I can not risk too many unexpected, because my tour lasts only 2 months, so I have to program the flights before leaving.
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Keep in mind, that sending one vehicle one time on a certain route, must be like charity work for the freight companies. Not much money to be made out of it for them. Plus it may be a lot of work for them to arrange it, your shipment being dangerous goods and all.
Only my observation, but most of the companies I've dealt wit, did not seem to want to do a whole lot, before I was personally there with my vehicle, so they could see I was for real.
They probably also get lots of inquiries of the same kind, most of which never turn into real shipping jobs (people just getting quotes from many different companies). So on the other hand, it is sort of understandable, too, if they seem slow to respond to calls and e-mails.
Some sort of pre-payment might speed up things at their end... but naturally that will have its own risks, like losing the money, if it turns out they weren't dependable. In fact I probably would not pay up front myself, or I'd pay only a very small amount.
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But I do not start even if I do not know Italy BEFORE I find a flight to Brazil to Dakar. I'm leaving Italy for my RTW only if I already have contacts with all the shippers I need for the 4 flights during my RTW: I can not risk too many unexpected, because my tour lasts only 2 months, so I have to program the flights before leaving.[/QUOTE]
can i ask WHY you would want to go on a RTW trip if you expect everything to only go to plan ? IT WONT . Also if you only have 2 months all you are going to get is stress and not see or experience anything . If I was you I would be looking into doing a different trip
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Originally Posted by Gold Wing
During my trip Round The World 2013 described here http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...r-2013-a-67083 I have to ship the bike from Brazil to Dakar (Senegal).
I found here on HU an address of a freight forwarder in Rio de Janeiro (Perseus - Rua dos Andradas 96 SL 304 and 305 - Centro - Rio de Janeiro - (Marcos Soares (55) 21 2108-4859) - www.perseus1.com.br), but the website is non-existent.
Does anyone have information but also other shippers between Brazil and Dakar?
thanks
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No experience, but a Google search suggests, try this:
SnailTrails - Pages (2010)
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RIOPORT Assessoria Aduaneira (customs broker)
Paulo Baceelar
AV.Rio Branco, 135 GR 814 - Centro
20040-006 - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - BRAZIL
PH +5521-2505-9650
FAX +5521-2505-9696
DIRECT LINE +5521- 2505-9661
MOBILE +5521-97969955
paulo.bacelar@rioportaduaneira.com.br
RioPort - Assessoria Aduaneira
Above website in Portuguese & English.
You may have to CALL to get detail/ accurate info.
Lufthansa & Air France, among other airlines w/ aircargo services, may have direct aircargo service GIG (RIO)->DKR,
OR
aircargo may have to go from GIG to EU gateway before onward flight to
Dakar
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thanks of info. I just sent an e-mail
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There's a good reason why Courtfisher's post said to "CALL" rather than email.
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There's a good reason why Courtfisher's post said to "CALL" rather than email.
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Why?
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Because you're far more likely to get what you need using the phone. Emails are rarely responded to. Even an email works in this specific case, you might as well get in the habit of phoning instead if you're determined to arrange everything in advance.
Probably you'll find that you need to actually show up to accomplish anything, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong about that. You sound like you know what you want and are accustomed to getting your way. This might not work very well in Latin America or Africa.
Good luck.
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... Paulo Baceelar
AV.Rio Branco, 135 GR 814 - Centro
20040-006 - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - BRAZIL
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Thanks; he responded to me and is making a quote for my bike. 
Now the biggest problem remains the Indonesia (another topic).
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If you dont trust anyone and want to argue with everyone what the hell are you doing on this site ? And then you go on to say you have friends . I would be surprised at that
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If you dont trust anyone and want to argue with everyone what the hell are you doing on this site ? And then you go on to say you have friends . I would be surprised at that 
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"Why the hell are you here?"
Well, I thought this was a place to seek and provide information, where in fact we will exchange experiences, reflections on travel, especially on a motorcycle.
But most of all I thought that this was a place where we confront in a civilized manner, respect different opinions and preferences of each.
Not a place where, in front of a motorcyclist who manifests a different way from the majority to go on a motorcycle, a different way of understanding the motorcycle trip, it has different times (I will not say better, but just as fast), in short, a different way to travel, someone will come up with a "why the hell are you here?".
Do not take it, but your "why the hell are you here?" Denotes arrogance and narrow-mindedness, and above all lack of understanding of those who think differently from us.  Because we are not all the same, but the tolerance and respect that should guide our lives (especially here, a forum of bikers who travel around the world), should teach us that not all want the same things and not all we want to same way.
You see, as I have often written, I like to travel fast and still I can not afford to drop everything and leave for a year or more. I can not and I will not.
Into the issue that started your inappropriate "Why the hell are you here?", It is not true that I do not believe anyone, I believe from what I can see, even with evidence crossed, I believe that has its own logic .
I think a lot of what I read here, because they are argued and not contradictory. And in any case, no matter what I believe, read here or elsewhere, that information must be evaluated according to my needs, which are different from those of others. If someone refers to a forwarding agent, says he has done a great job, fast and accurate, and then I read that it took a week, then I understand that "fast" for that person has a different meaning for me, because a week for me too.
If someone says that the flight to the bike cost too much (for a bike of 400 kg) and then says that he was EUR 1,000, then I understand that his idea is too different from mine, because I pay for ONLY € 1,000 for the bike we immediately put the signature!
The news must be examined and evaluated critically, which is why the good God (or nature, for those who do not believe) gave us the good of the intellect. 
So, my dear kito, if you have something useful, logical or interesting to say, speak, if you want to express your different legitimate opinions in mutual respect, do it, but if you just want to express your intolerance and impatience with those who have a way to travel other than your own, do not follow you on this way and prefer to ignore.
P.S. In Italy (and not only) I have enough friends, perhaps more than any you have there in New England.
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