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8 Feb 2015
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Originally Posted by James Rothwell
Yes the LC has a centre lock too.
I found when I went offroading when I had my 80 series Landcruiser with friends that had Landrovers that I could get up and over or through anything they could but 80% of the time I'd have to lock the centre+rear when they could get through by locking just the centre.
But why don't LR fit a rear locking diff to their Defender, is there some mechanical restriction that means it isn't possible or they just feel that it isn't required especially now that TC seems to work so well.
I think I might have said earlier in this thread that you never see a Landrover offroad here in UAE but I did actually see one on Friday in the desert a very new looking Defender 90 that was really struggling with the sand dunes, the owner seemed to think that the TC couldn't be turned off. Is that true? To its credit it did manage to make it back to firmer ground without actually getting stuck just progress was slow.
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I would say there are a few reasons, the primary one being the LR's were not designed from the outset with diff locks in mind. They can snap half shafts like carrots with open diff's. In inexperienced hands even LC or G Wagens can suffer damage to their drive train when their diff's are locked and they have far more substantial axles / half shafts. The entire design philosophy is different, Defenders in particular rely on axle articulation, LC and G Wagens still have reasonable articulation but take a look at the anti roll bars, they're massive compared to the LR ones.
Although there are many LR's around with after market diff locks you really need to alter your driving style to make them work effectively and importantly reliably.
Plus software is way cheaper than hardware!
Software will flatter the amateur but can only react to stuff as it's happening. I've seen D4's do some pretty impressive stuff but the human brain, combined with diff locks will always win.
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Landrovers are good I like the character they have and they are easy to work on with simple tools anywhere. The dfender/110's have a really useful shape that can be anything that you want.
I'm not a "fan" boy and I think whatever the best vehicle for that person is the best vehicle, the debate is meaningless.
However, living in Australia I'm converted to Toyota and I have had a Prado V6 petrol and a Landcruiser Troopcarrier (75 Diesel). Both are great, they just do what you ask of them in any landscape with the minimum of fuss and breakdowns.
Did 20-000 (km's) in the 'troopy' in 4 months, on the most remote Australian outback tracks, sleeping in the back, carrying all my stuff and only 1 puncture. The 6cyl non-turbo diesal here are regularly known to do a million kilometres with minimal servicing.
Having said that I'm now looking at a Landrover Perentie
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