I know that it really sucks not to be able to write on a forum until you have been approved by the admin, but with all these damn spammers I think it has to be time soon.

I know that this is also a hassel for you, but something should be done and as far as I know the easiest way would be to enable the "admin approval" feature which the board should have somewhere.

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South East Asia, USA, Central and South America and Scandinavia.

Sadly it wouldn't help much - they just need to come up with reasonable answers and I'd never know - and yeah it's a lot of work (and I'm not always here, sometimes on the road!) and it sucks not to be able to post immediately, so nope, I think it's not the answer to the spam scum.

Relatively speaking we don't get all that many, and there's enough people keeping an eye out that we get them pretty quickly.

thanks for trying to find a solution though!

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Grant Johnson
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What was it Groucho Marxs said, " Would I want to be a member of any club that'd have me" ?

Andy

We keep them pretty much under control. I have seen other sites which are much more polluted. Anyone can report a post to the moderators and within minutes it will usually be acted upon so as long as everyone is vigilent we'll keep it to the minimum.
Death to all spammers

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Gecko's right - though I admit I've sometimes been disappointed when members have clearly seen spam and didnt bother to pass it on. Perhaps they were unsure of recommended procedure. If so, then maybe some kind of automatic reminder message about spam when joining the HUBB might be considered.

On the other hand, it's nice to spot spam within an hour of it being posted and let a moderator know. Thats the most effective antispam response I know....and it lets people know that the well-being of the HUBB depends on everyone.

The fasted way to respond to a non apropriet thread/post or reply (spam) is hitting the button, on the right above each post.

It could be nice to point this out to new members, same goes for not putting a full email-adress in a post or any other of the FAQs, but who reads the full manual after purchasing a new toy (discovering this neverending source of knowledge) ?
I know it took me 2 years before I discovered the [gotofirstnewpost] button.

cheers

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Here's what new registrants get automatically when they sign up:
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at the Motorcycle Travellers' website:
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Can't do much more, they've got all the info - if they read it. And yes, most don't.

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Grant - can't fault you. As always!
(should be worth a free sticker sometime!!).


Slightly O/T,
A niggle with some is that newcomers cannot access the PM service until they have contributed a certain number of posts. (Not a problem for me - I have been boring people for ages).
This is probably to reduce spammers getting to us through PM by giving them a 'probation' period of relevant posts. Unless a reduction would start spam-storms, could it be reviewed?


Keep up the good work.

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someday

We've had one attempted spam to a lot of members via the PM system, so yes, we need to keep it intact - as is, it's more trouble than it's worth for the spammers - the more posts they need to make the more likely we are to spot and ban them, so it's a balancing act.

Finally, of course, people need to simply reply directly on the board - what drives me crazy is when people want to ask questions via PM that should be asked and ANSWERED for the benefit of ALL on the board! SHARING the info is what it's all about.

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Seek, and ye shall find.
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www.HorizonsUnlimited.com

Grant
Thanks for the reply. The circumstances are, as expected.

Fully agree about sharing information being the purpose of HUBB, but the point arose recently when a newcomer wanted to give me personal contact details so we could possibly meet - we were both on the road in Russia at the time.

But, "You's the Boss" - and probably know best .

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hah! Tell Susan that! please!

BUT there is often a solution - you just have to tell him your email address! Newbies can READ PM's, they just can't reply.

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Grant Johnson
Seek, and ye shall find.
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www.HorizonsUnlimited.com

The HUBB's one of the best travel forums around & granting instant access to it makes it more dynamic & fresh.

Just imagine being stuck in some remote hell hole needing help, then having to wait a week before getting approved!

I think it is symptomatic of times now that people want instant everything. Instant gratification, "sound bites", microwaves, e mail, faster internet, 1 hour photo developing and so on.
Well, I for one, was prepared to wait to have the advantages of a regular poster, and why not? If it's worthwhile then it's worth waiting for (or so my wife keeps telling me).
This forum is not compulsory, it's not a Government requirement, you don't have to have licence for it or pass a test - you just have to post a few times to be accepted.
Big deal.

To whoever is complaining, get over it and move on. If you don't like it, then move somewhere else anyway.
That's my opinion, I know you didn't ask for it, but I gave it anyway.
So there. Time for my anger management class.

1) you have instant access to the HUBB.

2) Sending a message to the HUBB gets every one ... well all of those reading the HUBB ... and those are probably the people who will offer advice rather than a PM to someone who may be away, busy or just don't know that subject.

3) A message on the HUBB would probably get more replys .. some with differening information .. and that difference may give you the best solution to the problem.

4) by putting it on the HUBB we all learn. With a PM only few may learn.

Help is best gained by advertising to the majority.

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Regards Frank Warner
motorcycles BMW R80 G/S 1981, BMW K11LT 1993, BMW K75 G/S

I think, Frank, he was referring to the start of this thread. peter-denmark said that due to the amount of spam getting on the board, we should make people get approved before they can even post on the HUBB. What you say is indeed true, and that's why Grant said he is reluctant to change the way it operates.

regards

Nigel in NZ

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