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22 May 2011
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Well that was strange. I wrote my last post and then remembered that I wasn't logged in. I clicked the submit reply button expecting it to show me the sign in page but it posted it and logged me in at the same time.
I'm glad I don't have to sort out this software problem. Some part of the system obviously knows who I am, my IP address, and knows that I have logged in previously and not logged out. But the log in status is not recognised by other parts of the system. Good luck Grant.
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22 May 2011
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Originally Posted by onlyMark
Logging in and out is not a problem. Staying logged in though is for me.
Even if I tick the Remember me box every time I navigate away from the site for more than an hour or two, it logs me out - it didn't used to. I could leave it overnight with the computer off and still come back as logged on.
I originally deleted the cookies and I've updated a new bookmark for the HUBB.
Using Firefox.
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It's PARTLY fixed, we're not satisfied with it as is and will continue working on it.
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Originally Posted by DougieB
if I arrive to the site directly from a bookmark then I am not logged in. if I then click a link I do become logged in. possibly a problem with the session logic.
Currently the first page may not show you as logged in but you are - and refreshing the page or going ot another one and you will see that you. Yep, that's weird but that's where it's at - obviously not acceptable but at least it works for now.
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Originally Posted by Flyingdoctor
I don't bother logging in anymore unless I want to post a reply. I just look at todays posts.
I hope it's sorted at some point as I don't feel as "connected" to the HUBB as when I'm logged in.
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Understood!
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Originally Posted by Flyingdoctor
Well that was strange. I wrote my last post and then remembered that I wasn't logged in. I clicked the submit reply button expecting it to show me the sign in page but it posted it and logged me in at the same time.
I'm glad I don't have to sort out this software problem. Some part of the system obviously knows who I am, my IP address, and knows that I have logged in previously and not logged out. But the log in status is not recognised by other parts of the system. Good luck Grant.
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It's a cookie thing, and three pieces of software - one is a module of one - that is the issue.
We run Drupal and vBulletin tied together with Drupalvb - to enable you to be logged in both at once - but Drupalvb the module is clearly not at the stage of development it's supposed to be, so we're working on it! Bleeding edge stuff  which is not our normal mode for software. We tend to run well behind. We originally had recommendations to run Drupal 7, which is just released, but there was lots to be scared of, so we just went Drupal 6, (former was on Drupal 5) which has been out for about 4 years, and considered very solid, and Drupalvb similar - but  not so.
Going back is now not an option, so we keep slogging away at it - or at least our developer does now, we hit the road for HU's European events tonight. We gave ourselves two weeks to get the site settled down after the upgrade, thinking that was plenty of time before we had to leave, but it didn't work out that way.
Anyway, thanks for your patience all, we'll get there, and it will be better!
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22 May 2011
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I'm not as lucky as Flyingdoctor: when I hit the Reply button I do have to log in first, but at least I got directly to the reply page and not HU's front page, which I found annoying.
@ Grant & Susan: have fun! You only live once. Thanks for the great site.
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23 May 2011
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Whooppee
today is the second time I have managed to log in since the upgrade. the last time was a week or so ago (16th or before) using the yellow box hack after clearing all the hu cookies.
no idea if it will work again tomorrow
just for interest using Ubuntu 10.04 and firefox 3.6.17
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23 May 2011
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Each day I come to the site it hasn't remembered me, I click the logout and then log in again OK but the "Welcome" box says last visited 1 minutes before which which is anoyinng because I can't see "updated posts" as the bold banner is always at the top. Only a little one Grant but thought you may want to know.
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23 May 2011
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So far, the update took the site offline for a couple of days without warning, made logging in a pain in the butt (and repeatedly so, at odd intervals), slowed page loading noticeably, and removed a couple of minor, but handy little features like the ability to collapse sidebar headings by clicking on them ("Blogs," "Planning," etc.) and the little note that used to tell me when I'd reached the end of the posts which had arrived since last I checked.
So what were the improvements? Surely something's been improved? I'm not complaining, but it seems to me that I'm not the only one who likes clear, cogent explanations of what's going on--more than "We're improving the site in various massive ways, so be patient and we'll be back sooner or later."
Or is the rapture involved, somehow?
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23 May 2011
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Hey Grant, no need to worry. I'm sure all be fine in due time. I'll be waiting patiently at the side-line until things speed up again
Y'all doing a fantastic job with this site and anything else regarding HU. Looking forward to seeing you and Susan in NC in August
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29 May 2011
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Originally Posted by markharf
So far, the update took the site offline for a couple of days without warning, made logging in a pain in the butt (and repeatedly so, at odd intervals), slowed page loading noticeably, and removed a couple of minor, but handy little features like the ability to collapse sidebar headings by clicking on them ("Blogs," "Planning," etc.) and the little note that used to tell me when I'd reached the end of the posts which had arrived since last I checked.
So what were the improvements? Surely something's been improved? I'm not complaining, but it seems to me that I'm not the only one who likes clear, cogent explanations of what's going on--more than "We're improving the site in various massive ways, so be patient and we'll be back sooner or later."
Or is the rapture involved, somehow?
Mark
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Reasons for everything -
1. we weren't sure just when the upgrade was going to be "ready" to go - a couple of times we thought it was good to go, and were set to announce it - then found more bugs. Then finally it was "ready" according to our developer before we expected after the aggro, so there was less notice than planned - we needed to jump and get it done quick. We did put up a couple of hours notice.
2. Logging in - if you think it's a pain in the butt, you have no idea how pissed I am. You pay a bucket of money to pros and get a disaster. It's getting sorted but not nearly good enough or fast enough. our apoligies - we're trying.
3. Collapse sidebar headings - later...I hadn't noticed in the testing that it was gone, so will get it sorted later - low priority for now, but thanks for pointing it out!
4. "the little note that used to tell me when I'd reached the end of the posts which had arrived since last I checked." - huh? Sorry you'll have to give me details - never noticed that!
5. I've been so busy fixing details have been low priority!
6. As for why the upgrade - very simple - the old software is no longer supported, and is ancient - so we had to upgrade. Also, there were a LOT of feature requests we had that people wanted, and we couldn't do - and a lot of things that we wanted to do to make our life a lot easier, automating a lot of stuff that is currently manual and takes us a HUGE amount of time that should be instant and automated, that we couldn't easily set up on the old software. So despite the pain, and huge expense - you have no idea what this stuff co$t$ - we needed to do it. And we'll be doing a lot more behind the scenes to make a better website for everyone, including us working away in the background.
It's now 99% done - we just have a few small bugs to swat and we're good to go.
Then we can start putting in new features - there are already some in, take a look at the user options - there's some new features there - friends, photo albums and more, also notice the like and share links on each post. Small stuff but it's a start. We'll soon have the shipping database back in operation, also the books pages are almost done being completely revamped to make it easier to find books and list them for us.
Also a full on shopping cart system is on the cards for the winter. NEW blog software this winter too. And more to come!
Requests welcome - tell us what you WANT to see!
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